Ryan Giggs on trial for assaulting two women - Update: Charges withdrawn by the Crown Prosecution Service

The incidents happened while he was in his public facing job. The nature of criminal proceedings is that, AFAIK, they’re always retrospective.

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Peter Wright QC, prosecuting, told the court Mr Giggs’ relationship with Kate Greville was “punctuated by acts of violence and volatility”. He said Ms Greville and her sister were assaulted by Mr Giggs on 1 November 2020.

Opening his case against Mr Giggs at Manchester Minshull Street Crown Court, Mr Wright said this was a story of “control and coercion” of a woman who thought she was “loved and respected”. He told the jury they will hear the relationship had “ups and downs” and that Ryan Giggs was seeing someone else when he was with Ms Greville. He said the abuse from Mr Giggs was “interspersed with acts of kindness and contrition”, and Mr Giggs would say she had misunderstood him, had jumped to the wrong conclusion and that he was the victim.

“We say this was controlling and coercive behaviour,” he said. “This was a behaviour to gaslight her, and make her pliant and compliant.”

He said the behaviour was “calculated”, and was “conduct that would have an obvious and serious affect on her emotionally and physically”.

Mr Giggs has pleaded not guilty to controlling and coercive behaviour against his ex-girlfriend Kate Greville between August 2017 and November 2020. He has also denied assaulting Ms Greville, causing her actual bodily harm, and common assault of her younger sister, Emma Greville, at his home in Worsley, Greater Manchester, on November 1 2020.

The trial - expected to last around 10 days - will relocate to Manchester Crown Court from Tuesday and remain there for the duration.

The court proceedings are described in more detail here:

Ryan Giggs headbutted ex-partner and promised her 'no more naked piccies’

Scroll to the end and work upwards.

Nasty piece of work.

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The second day of Ryan Giggs’ trial is about to get underway.

Judge Manley has entered the courtroom.

Prosecutor Peter Wright QC deals with some preliminary matters before the jury is brought into court.

The jury has entered the courtroom and the evidence in the trial will begin.

Mr Wright tells the jury they will be played the ABE interview of Kate Greville, which lasts an hour and 45 minutes.

I’m surprised that he hasn’t paid for another court super injunction to prevent publicity like he did with his affair with Imogen Thomas, (she wasn’t included in the injunction so was thrown to the wolves).

I haven’t heard much about super-injunctions recently - I think they fell out of favour after the Giggs debacle:

CTB v New Group Newspapers Ltd (a.k.a. Ryan Giggs)

Perhaps the most infamous super injunction of them all. In CTB v (1) News Group Newspapers Limited (2) Imogen Thomas [2011] EWHC 1232 (QB) a Manchester United footballer, referenced under the pseudonym ‘CTB’, was granted an interim order which was later extended to restrain details of his extra-marital affair with reality tv star Imogen Thomas. Rumours surfaced on Twitter naming Ryan Giggs as the mystery footballer and ultimately Liberal Democrat MP John Hemming used parliamentary privilege to confirm Giggs as CTB.

The case brought up many interesting points. Firstly that Giggs was a victim of the Streisand Effect whereby attempting to hide his identity only made Twitter users more intent on finding out the mystery footballer and therefore actually brought more exposure than had he done nothing. Action was initiated against Twitter to attempt to obtain anonymous user’s information however ultimately as it was reported around the world the cat was already out of the bag. Giggs may have attempted to bring action against Twitter and other media outlets in the United States however owing to their first amendment rights as well as Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act making platforms immune from what their users post, it would likely have been futile.

Additionally as Giggs had not applied for an interdict (the Scottish version of an injunction), the information was not restrained north of the border. The Scottish newspaper, the Sunday Herald, then proceeded to reveal his identity with a very thinly hidden image. As the print edition was solely sold in Scotland, the English court’s jurisdiction did not apply so no contempt charges could be brought against them.

Despite this, the member of parliament naming Giggs and the story effectively being public knowledge, the injunction remained in place even as The Sun launched further appeals. Finally, 10 months after the original application, Giggs gave permission for the court to reveal his identity. He attempted to claim damages from The Sun but this was rejected.

The case led to a report by a committee of judges recommended that super injunctions should “only be granted where they are strictly necessary.” David Cameron, the Prime Minister at the time called the situation ‘unsustainable’ and admitting the law needed reviewing. The case did highlight the inadequacies of the law when dealing with social media platforms but Twitter has subsequently said they will identify users where requested by courts likely through Norwich Pharmacal orders. Since this case, there has been a noted reduction in the number of orders granted (or at least those that have come to the public attention).

Former Manchester United and Wales star Ryan Giggs was “almost like two people”, his ex-girlfriend has told a court.

In an interview heard by the jury, Ms Greville, 36, told detectives Mr Giggs was her “soulmate” but saw early “red flags” in their relationship.

Ms Greville was interviewed by police weeks after she alleged the former Wales manager headbutted her in November 2020.

She told detectives both she and Mr Giggs were married when their affair started and she was unhappy in a controlling relationship with her husband.

“He would tell me about his marriage and he was not happy, I would talk about mine,” she said.

She said things “developed” from that point on and she left her husband two months later.

“He was like a best friend, a soulmate, he was the one to save me from that marriage,” she added.

“It was like he was my best friend but there were definite red flags.”

She said Mr Giggs told her he needed more time to end his marriage with his then-wife.

Eventually, Ms Greville said she gave him an ultimatum but nothing changed and she decided to move to Abu Dhabi to “get away from him”.

The trial continues.

Ms Greville told detectives Mr Giggs had once “flipped” in a hotel room after she confronted him about messaging another woman. She said he squared up to her, grabbed her wrist “hard” and “literally dragged” her naked across the floor and threw her and her belongings into the corridor.

Ms Greville added that she was left feeling “humiliated and embarrassed”.

She told detectives that months before the alleged assault in November 2020, she found evidence that Mr Giggs had had relationships with eight other women over the previous six years.

During their affair, she said Mr Giggs kept promising he would leave his wife after she had ended her own marriage, but it did not happen.

At one point she stopped speaking to him and ignored his messages and calls, she said.

Ms Greville told police that Mr Giggs turned up at her apartment but she ignored him prompting him to shout: “You are a whore. Have you got somebody in there?”

There’ll be worse to come, no doubt … :hear_no_evil:

Kate said in a police statement, which was read out at Manchester Crown Court: "He wouldn’t leave me alone.

"One minute he would be like, ‘you’re abusive, this is never going to work’, and then he’d be sending me naughty pictures.

"If I didn’t reply to him, I’d get a lot of abusive messages.

"He sent me an email once with blackmail and it was a video of what we’d done.

"He’d say, ‘I’m going to send these messages to people if you don’t reply’.

“He’d send me really sexual messages, I got bombarded.”

Ex-partner of Ryan Giggs claims he ‘flipped’ and locked her out of hotel room naked - live updates

A yesterday, scroll down to start and work upwards.

Kate Greville recounts the bad attitude and foul language from Giggs … :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

Is this slease really interesting?

I wonder what sort of woman goes out with a man who is so revolting ?
He even betrayed his own brother .

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It is when you see people like him get their comeuppance

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That Walesonline link is a live update, so it keeps updating itself.
That means it only needs one link for anyone who is interested in seeing all the details as they unfold in court - they can just click on one link and read it for themselves.

I’ve always found court cases fascinating and I have served as a juror on a similar case. I have never liked Giggs as a person - he’s a man who “uses” women - so I would be delighted if he received his just deserts (1).

(1) That really is the correct (original) spelling.

Of course they can.

You will have noted, no doubt, that I posted the link after court proceedings for the day had finished in order to incorporate a comment. There will, of course, be “revelations” throughout the trial and, possibly, some drama.

Cross-examination of Kate Greville by Giggs’ counsel Christopher Daw QC is due to begin

I hope he does, Galty!

Once a scum bag,always a scum bag.

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