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Controversial: Politics & Govt Brexit
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The Republic of Ireland can be part of Schengen (it is part of the EU) and has a Schengen border - thats my point.

Instead there is the CTA as the Republic being in Schengen would cause a hard border between NI and the Republic because the UK is not in Schengen.

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Hi

The Common Travel area applies to people, not goods.

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But the Schengen area is nothing to do with customs and trade, it is irrelevant.

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Hi Harbal,

To be honest I wish the U.K. would release Northern Ireland as it never should have been segregated in the first place.

There will never be peace as there is too much division. Just my humble opinion.

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Hi. :039:

I agree, it does seem right that Ireland should be all one country, but that is a matter for those who live in NI. It should be their decision.

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Can’t see them doing that as they’d lose all the benefits the UK provides.

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You want a hard border on the island of Ireland - it is relevant in that case.

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So do you think the Unionists in NI want to be part of Britain for pragmatic, rather than emotional, reasons?

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It doesn’t matter to me whether there is a border or not, it ain’t my problem. :102:

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You said there has to be a hard border.

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I was explaining why there cannot be a satisfactory solution to the problem. It is not about my personal preferences, I don’t have any, I am just speaking as a disinterested observer, or at least an occasional one. In other words, unlike you, I don’t have a biased view. :slightly_smiling_face:

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You said there needs to be a hard border either on the island of Ireland or in the UK.

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Yes, but not because I require one.

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Under the terms of the 1998 peace agreement, a united Ireland can only be created, if majorities vote for it in separate referendums in Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.

Sinn Fein now have the majority but the leader of the DUP won’t agree to their takeover until the protocol is sorted.It’s designed to avoid a hard border between it and the Republic of Ireland and means checks are required on goods coming into Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK, something unionists say undermines Northern Ireland’s place in the union.

Once this has been ironed out I do think that there may be some attempt at reunification so watch this space.

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Your not making sense now Harbal, you either say there needs to be a hard border or you don’t you can’t have both.

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I think it’s your intellectual capacity that’s the problem, Bread. I’m sure I am making sense to anyone with a reasonable IQ. :face_with_monocle:

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@Octogen , The attempt at reunification has been ongoing since l can
remember octogen , maybe it will succeed this time as siene fiene have
been infiltrating NI for years now ??
Donkeyman! :thinking::thinking:

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I very much doubt it.

Meanwhile
 look ! no hard border !

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So, they want to unilaterally abandon parts of the protocol?

That will be the protocol Johnson signed up when he negotiated?

That he said would work?

And the protocol which formed part of the basis on which the EU agreed to the Brexit agreement

He either genuinely believed it would work and is stupid

Or he wasn’t negotiating in good faith, in which case, why should the EU Co-operate?

They have every right to insist on the application of the protocol the U.K. signed up for

And if the U.K. try to change it unilaterally, to retaliate

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Johnson selling his protocol to you. Just the sort of man you’d want as a respected leader