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Oh dear Floydy, that sounded agonising - back pain AND hernia pain!! Are you any better now? I have been very lucky because I have never ever had any back trouble for some reason. Wishing you a swift recovery!

Managed to get to the gym after missing Tuesday out due to family commitments and yet again only had time for a short workout of 2 hours and 20 minutes instead of the 3 hours I prefer. A total of 72370kg lifted and 1219 calories burnt, with the session rated as 93/100.

I did a bit more arm and chest workout this time to give the legs a rest and the “up/down the stacks” is going better now. Going up the stack I managed to add a set of 55kg on the pec deck and the shoulder press, which is the best I have done so far. :slight_smile:

I’ll have to try and get some extra training done next week as I am being dragged away for a break, keeping my mother company for 8 nights in a cottage on the Northumberland coast. I like the walks and the scenery but it means no gym!! I’ll be useless in the gym when I get back, sigh. :frowning: Still, as long as my mother is happy, eh!!

Fingers crossed that your aches and pains have gone, Floydy. I’m sure you won’t have to do anything as drastic as quitting! :slight_smile:

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Good to hear that you are training hard and reaping the benefits, Tachyon. You do enjoy the ‘up-down’ stack machine workouts, which are very effective in reaching peak strength and then taking it back down once more. A harder exercise - when you are ready for it - is to start at the highest weight and work your way down. Now that is one difficult task!

I should look forward to your time away with your mum though mate. Treat it as a holiday in the real sense which is a time to relax and enjoy one another’s company. You may return a little rusty whwn you recommence the gym work but uou’ll soon recover your energy levels (probably even during that first returning session) and the rest won’t harm you at all.
Enjoy your break mate :slight_smile:

As for me, I am sitting here at 1.35am as I type this. And I’m at home.
I had to leave work early following my inability to carry out my tasks in an effective manner. My backache hasn’t subsided much but the worst thing is the hernia is now excrutiatingly painful. It keeps ‘popping out’, which in turn closes blood vessels around it and so limits my blood supply.
My right leg goes weak, my testes ache and my pee flow is very slow.

I managed to get an emergency appointment yesterday with a doctor who has now referred me for an operation to sort out the hernia. He isn’t concerened with the pulled muscle in my back. That will ease when the hernia is operated on. When that will be is anybody’s guess.

All this pain and suffering because I simply can’t ease off with the heavy weights. It’s my fault and I had it coming a long time. Serves me right!

Meanwhile I’m comfiest sitting down or driving. I did mention the gym to the doc and was told that I’d be okay ‘doing a bit’ just to keep the body active but to stay away from any ‘pulling’ exercises.
I may do some very light sled pressing to strengthen the lower back and maybe some light tricep work, which should be okay. We will see what happens this weekend on the pain front.

Meanwhile, I’ll be totally resructuring my exercise programme to involve ONLY light weights work from now on and recommence the cardio after so long away.

Bob, Suzie - I may even end up joining you both on a permanent running routine. I always knew that my 55 birthday would be a turning point for so many changes. Work, finances…now my training too.
God, I feel old :confused:

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I hope you recover soon, Floydy, and don’t be downhearted. I know how it can be when something stops you doing what you enjoy and it can be really disheartening. As you say, change the routine and using lighter weights with more reps is the way to go - and that was your advice to me which has really worked brilliantly!

I got to the gym yesterday and had a lovely 3 hours in there and set a new personal best for calories burnt - only just - of 1520, which if memory serves was about 19 calories more that my previous best. I’ll take that as a win though! :smiley: The workout was scored as 98/100 and the total kilos lifted was 97,960… oh if I’d only done a few more reps on things and got over the 100,000 barrier. Still, another time as they say. :slight_smile:

Pulldown: 65x60kg
Leg Sled: 335x120kg
Pec Deck: 20x30kg, 10x35kg, 20x40kg, 50x45kg, 75x50kg, 5x55kg
Back Extension: 60x67.5kg
Stomach Crunch: 90x55kg
Chest Press: 21x30kg, 20x35kg, 10x40kg, 61x50kg
Leg Curl: 80x40kg
Leg Extension:55x35kg
Leg Abduction:180x40kg
Hip Adduction: 180x40kg
Shoulder Press: 2x20kg
Alternate Curls: 180x14kg, 140x23.5kg
Low Row: 40x50kg

I’m sure that the gym data system didn’t record another 40x50kg on the Low Row, but that might well be me at fault. I sometimes get straight on with the reps as soon as I sit in the machines without inserting the data key, often only realising when I have finished my reps. :smiley: Serves me right for not paying attention, eh? :slight_smile:

Take care all and enjoy your training, whatever form it takes. :slight_smile:

Pulldown: 65x60kg
Leg Sled: 335x120kg
Pec Deck: 20x30kg, 10x35kg, 20x40kg, 50x45kg, 75x50kg, 5x55kg
Back Extension: 60x67.5kg
Stomach Crunch: 90x55kg
Chest Press: 21x30kg, 20x35kg, 10x40kg, 61x50kg
Leg Curl: 80x40kg
Leg Extension:55x35kg
Leg Abduction:180x40kg
Hip Adduction: 180x40kg
Shoulder Press: 2x20kg
Alternate Curls: 180x14kg, 140x23.5kg
Low Row: 40x50kg

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Tachyon, this is fantastic work! You really put me to shame with your everlong, everlasting workouts buddy. You have taken on board a great routine, you are used to the apparatus and are using it to your full advantage. It’s working a treat for you so don’t fix what ain’t broke. :023::023:

It’s always nice to hear that I have been of use with any advice I have given in the past and to helped with somebody’s fitness levels thus bringing their health back to a great standard is very pleasing. I see this as role reversal now as I’ll be recovering from a set of ‘injuries’ which has finally taught me a lesson or two - to take a reality check and slow down, ease off and get a grip. Bob, you’ve mentioned that time and time again to me also and I’m finally taking heed…I will listen to advice from you two (and Suzie too) and change my routines completely.

I envisage doing more of the high rep stuff with lighter weights, discarding much of the ‘pull’ exercises, especially from the floor and many of the free weight stuff too. There will be a whole lot of new cardio thrown in too, plus new stretching exercises to perform during my workouts. I will devise all of that this week as I don’t now intend to return to the gym until I know my hernia problem has subsided enough to continue.

And what am I worried about exactly?
Losing all my muscles? Becoming weak and feeble?
It is difficult after a life of bodybuilding and heavy weight training to come to terms with easing off but none of the above will happen. Not yet anyway, I’m still in pretty good shape.
I am 17 stone with very little fat but I’m not really built for running but I can do some cardio work again. And I do have maybe half a stone around the middle which could be tightened up and my diet needs a quick overhaul, so I’ll be devising ways of becoming fitter but also keeping the muscle tone maintained, though without the frankly silly mindset of wanting to still get bigger. That is a surefire way to cause even more injury and it’s nonsense anyway at my age. At almost 55, who gives a toss? I’m not about to go strutting around the beach at my time of life posing, that would be ridiculous! Not that I ever did anyway - it’s all in the mind. Delusion and ‘fitness narcissism’ does have a habit of raising it’s ugly head doesn’t it?

So I’ll be getting on with the new plans on a template. Meanwhile I’ll be back at work tonight and gingerly lifting boxes and seeing where my hernia actually kicks in. Hopefully I can keep it at a minimal pain level until I receive word of my operation.

Cheers all :slight_smile:

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Good morning!

So much to catch up on here. I am most concerned about you, Floydy. How terrible, for you. Is there any way you could get a massage to relieve some of the peripheral muscle tension? The problem with being athletic is that there is that while doctors might be able to help with the physical injury, we have to step up and be our own doctors when it comes to healing the loss of fitness. You will be able to come back, Floydy. OGF and Tachyon have proven this more than once!

OGF, I saved your chart so I can look at it later. My perspective of this isn’t what you have lost, but how incredibly well you are performing, given your two heart events and your age. There is no question that you are an inspiration for a lot of people. You look great, are still out there enjoying your days, and doing activities on the side that many people your age only wish they could manage. It’s what you are doing - not what you aren’t - that matters most! :smiley:

As usual, stepping of the plane from Italy, I had to push the accelerator down to get to Kansas where my mom had plenty to do (besides just spending precious time with her) with and then racing back here to get hurricane preparations done, though it looks like we might be spared.

Somewhere, somewhere…in there managed a run or two, but like you Tachyon, I wasn’t able to get as much done as I would have liked when visiting my mom.

Now I am back home but will be immersed in driving my daughter back and forth to college, teaching her to drive, and then getting caught up in all things hearth and home. In all that, I have decided that getting back into a dedicated fitness program has to be job one so I can be in mental and physical shape to get everything done.

I suppose that summer is officially over for me! :lol:

Now where did I leave my umbrella? :lol:

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Great to hear from you Suzie and that your mum is okay :cool: Nice also that your daughter is learning to drive…maybe in time she will be well enough to drive herself to the hospital for her check-ups?

I’m still feeling strange in myself. The hernia is affecting both sides now and I have a pain deep in my lower abdomen. I’m going for some blood tests tomorrow so I’ll try to see a doctor again too for another examination. I’m still debilitating whether or not to go to work tonight. I feel okay sitting down but when I walk for a bit the weird pains come back. It’s a bit concerning tbh.

I hope the hurricane doesn’t cause too much damage this time and that you can eventually find some time to get sorted out with a nice, daily fitness routine once more. Take care now :cool:

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Hectic week meant I haven’t got to the gym so far this week and on Friday I am away for a week, so that will be 2 weeks with no training! I’ll have to settle for walking as much as possible along the coast until I get back. Last time I was away there was very limited phone reception and no Internet, so the same might happen again. :frowning: I hope I can scrape up a signal and check in to the forum but if not I’ll be back in a week. Take care all of you!

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Enjoy your break, Tachyon, you’ll still be in fine fettle when you get back. Trust me, the first day you return to the gym you may be a little rusty but after that it all falls back into place mate :cool:

Myself, I’m thinking about cancelling my gym membership.
With me waiting for the hernia operation and then the recovery time, it could be months before I can get back to anything approaching general fitness again. No point in paying a subscription every month if I’m not using it.

A little nearer is a ‘budget gym’ which is only £9.99 per month and by the time I get back I’m not going to do any heavy weights work anymore anyway, so that gym would suffice for cardio and high reps work, which will be my next programme.

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I’ve just cancelled my gym membership as I haven;t been using it lately due to being unwell and it’s £40 per month down the drain. I’m joining our local council gym, its only £20 per month so will be worth it as I intend to go back swimming, without membership swimming sessions cost £6 so if I only go once a week it’s worth it.

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You know, Lion Queen, that’s an even better idea. Join the council leisure centre! :023::023:
There are six different pools and gyms run by Hull’s Council and you get a ‘Tonic’ card, for about £20 as you said.
I’m thinking of when I’m back on days and I have more time. My gym doesn’t have a pool, so the council places (of which there is one five minutes’ walk away) would be fantastic for a swim after a quick workout after work.
Thanks for this idea! :026:

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My pleasure mate! :smiley:

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Hi, LQ. What a smart move to change your membership! With the challenges you’ve had this last year, your fitness is more important than other. :slight_smile:

That said, even if you had to give up the membership because of cost, there are ways you can stay fit without the cost. Unable to leave the house for several years, I had to get by with a yoga mat, an aerobic step, and running shoes!

No matter what, exercise and a healthy diet should stay at the top of your list, and you have to stay true to whatever works for you, which I am currently have to tell the woman in the mirror.

Which, Floydy brings me to my next thoughts. I know you are having to change your way of thinking with your hernia and back issues Though it takes a little extra time, I’ve never worked out with anything more than a set of five pounders, usually three.It’s a massive paradigm shift, but if you have to alter your workouts down the road, there is no reason you can’t be fit last a fiddle. You might even think about something different altogether like cycling! Until then, please go easy. We are all concerned. :hug:

Tachyon, I hope that wherever this finds you that you are enjoying the fruits of your labor. It’s wonderful to get away! Safe travels.:cool:

Well, OGF, I’m still running, but it’s been like trying to find a sliver of light in the storm to get it done. Between taking care of my mom, doing some advanced biology tutoring, and just trying to get caught up around here, I’ve had to skip a day or two :-(. The last thing I told my mom was that I was on my way back to Florida to launch Project Me, after realizing that my good habits were slipping by letting a day here or there slip away to help everyone else. I know better. Last night I ran with a beautiful scarlet sunset over my shoulder and my mental To Do lists far, far away. How is your foot? Concerned about you.

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Good to hear you’re still treading the roads and tracks Surfermom, despite all the obstacles you have had to contend with just lately…You certainly are a determined young lady…:wink:

Ah yes, the foot…:017: For the last couple of weeks it has been slowly improving and running has been virtually unaffected. Yesterday it ached so much that I was almost limping at times. Fortunately Saturday was a rest day, but I didn’t hold much hope out for my Sunday run. Miraculously, I set off in earnest this morning, and after a mile or two was running happy with no pain. I decided six miles would be sufficient though instead of my usual eight…

So…To What do I owe the recent onset of pain?
After my Friday five I walked four miles later in the day wearing those now well worn New Balance running shoes. We discussed how flat shoes might just have some long term implications, I believe I have discovered what they are…I’ve always considered them racing shoes by their light design, thin midsoles and flat bottoms. Indeed, I have clipped many a minute off my best times on several well run courses, but I fear it’s payback time…

They were retired from running earlier in the year, but felt it would be alright to walk in them because they were so comfy. I’m glad to report that I shall now return to more substantial walking shoes and see if I was right…This is the first time in all my years of running that I’ve been affected with Plantar, so let’s hope it was the shoes…

You and Floydy have probably got enough on your plates without me going on about running shoes and small aches, so I wish you both well and will report back when this monotonous life of mine turns up something exciting…again!

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LQ, somehow I missed your post. How is it going? Are you swimming?

OGF, I am hoping that the problem is as simple as your shoes. It makes sense to me. My one very painful bout with it was due to running the beach barefooted for several months. Now I run the beach with substantial running shoes even if it means getting them soaked! Those arches have to be propped up more and more as we get older, and as I have noticed lately, we lose some of the fat on the bottom of our feet. Strange, isn’t it!

I am running, but mostly in circles! I have driven 5,000 miles this week and won’t bore you with the details, except to say that I’ve been pulling into the garage or hotel, well after dark leaving me with no greater desire than to collapse into bed. :lol:

That said, I was able to push through five today, though the temperatures and humidity here are still soaring. The one thing I am noticing though is that instead of running clearing my mind, the wheels are spinning. What’s with that :lol:?

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Hooray! Another five miles down the road and I am dog tired but happy. This is the toughest time of year to run, but that also makes the most satisfying. Each completion d.is a tiny victory of nature who is beating me in the mirror, but giving me a break in the great outdoors. I’ll take it!

I’ve been busy tutoring a student and trying to spend my rare week at home starting to simplify, simplify. Why do we accumulate so much stuff? When I first moved here, my things were in storage for almost two years. Aside from a few items, I realized that not only did I not miss them, I couldn’t name most of what was in the boxes before I re-opened them. It really is just - stuff.

I did step aerobics watching Bosch on Netflix, but I tripped and nearly fell off when I got a good look at him with his shirt off :shock: Maybe I should be watching the new for the sake of my health…:lol:

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Just popping in to be polite and sociable, obviously I can’t really do much in the way of exercise right now, though I am planning to work around my hernia by trying out some exercise on areas which shouldn’t affect the pain in any way. Push-ups could make a welcome return, if I wasn’t getting so lazy at the moment! :confused:

Bob - you’re still doing great with your running. Those little blips you get with your foot must be irritating, Bob, but being a seasoned runner you know it is only temporary and without making the issue worse you still can put a healthy few miles in. Well done bud :cool:

Suzie - Thanks for the kind words :cool:
It must feel good to be able to relax occasionally in between driving so much and looking after your family. You do a great job there. You always amaze me with your energy and determination. To take on board a student too must be a nice and pleasant challenge and another string to your bow.
Watch out for those videos with shirtless men though! We’ll have Bob appearing here soon only in shorts! :lol:

Tachyon - you doing okay bud? :cool:

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Not even with shorts on Floydy…:-D…Damn that Mrs Fox…

Good to see you in here Floydy and thanks for the comment…:wink:
Sorry you’re not able to participate yet but the rest will do you good and I know you will be back fighting fit once your hernia has been sorted out. In the couple of months following my Heart Attack it was so frustrating not to be able to run, but I never once doubted that I wouldn’t return to running at some level eventually, and I reckon you are just the same Floydy…Enjoy the rest and try to keep mobile as best you can, and in a years time you will wonder what all the fuss was about…:102:

I’m still getting a bit of a twinge in my heel from time to time but it hasn’t stopped me from getting out. I’ve put some inserts into my slippers (I know, but I wear them most of the time at home) and I think they are doing some good, at least it’s not getting any worse…

A strange morning this morning, very still and overcast, and a bit on the warm side and very dark with a massive black cloud stretching out in every direction it looked like a scene from ‘Independence Day’…:shock:

I adopted a very relaxed pace and left the busy road in the village for the peace and quiet of the country. At the four mile mark I automatically took the turn off for my eight mile route, I think I felt guilty for only running six miles last Sunday. Except for the last two miles I didn’t see a car or a person, and thoughts were in abundance while stepping out the miles…

At one and a half miles to go I spied another runner coming towards me, it wasn’t until we passed that I recognised Mark the Boiler Man…He installed my new boiler a few years ago and now pops in annually to service it. We had spoke about our love of running, but it was the first time I’d actually seen him out on the road. I suppose a youngish bloke with his own business has to fit his running in where he can…

I was quite pleased he was going the other way, I don’t think I could have kept up with his expeditious pace, and I certainly couldn’t have held a conversation…Twenty years ago it would have been him hanging breathless onto my tee shirt…:cool:

Anyway, I stumbled on to finish in a reasonable time and was just happy to have got round an eight miler and still be able to tell the tale…

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Thank the gods I am back… I am so fed up. The “holiday” turned into a shambles early on the first morning of our stay. I had decided to have a slow start to the day after our trip there the previous day, so I thought a 9am wakeup on a Saturday was not unreasonable. When I was finished getting ready my phone rang and it was my mother’s phone calling me but with a man saying my mother had suddenly become dizzy and had fallen backwards, landing hard on the wet sand while walking on the beach with the dog. She’d left on her own without even telling me!! It took a coastguard 4x4 to get her off the beach to a waiting ambulance, an hour’s drive to hospital and then a 6 hour wait in A&E for various tests. She hadn’t broken anything but the soft tissue damage to her right shoulder meant she was in a lot of pain and couldn’t even use the arm.

We came back home on Monday, then an ambulance arrived at 5pm to take her for some tests to ensure she hadn’t had a TIA which caused the dizziness. We were in the hospital another 6 hours and got home at 1am on Tuesday. Since then I have been at her place keeping an eye on her and I am worn out. I’ll see what tomorrow brings but after having my gym stuff in my backpack three times and not getting there I am absolutely determined I will be there tomorrow. My sanity needs it. I have told my mother there is no chance in hell we are going on any more “holidays” henceforth. I am off for a long soak in the bath and an early night because I’m shattered. A whiskey nightcap might also be a feature. :smiley:

Take care all, no matter what you get up to. :slight_smile:

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Oh Tachyon, I’m so sorry to hear this bud. What an awful thing to happen to your mother and to ruin your holiday :frowning:
I guess the main thing is that your mum is relatively okay, it could have been so much worse.

Enjoy your bath and yes, definitely have a whiskey and maybe watch a light-hearted DVD or something?

Gym tomorrow for you definitely though. Thrash it out in there and let’s just hope you can manage some time away again soon.

Take care bud :cool:

Oh just another note…
Bob! What on earth are you doing in that picture?!! Surfermom will be having serious hot flushes when she sees you in all your glory! You need keeping an eye on methinks!:shock::shock:

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I visited the gym his evening for 15-20 minutes. Just a little light exercise just to see what aggravates the hernia and what I’m comfortable with. I didn’t exert myself at all but it’s good to see I can still exercise a little and get myself out which is the main thing.

I tried the treadmill but the hernia ‘lump’ soon moved from its place and I had to quit. So walking on that isn’t a good idea.

I did some light dumbbell lifting, just sat on the edge of a bench and curling a tiny 14kg weight a few times from the floor to my shoulder. This was okay and if I positioned the weight inside my knee muscle it kept my lower abdomen out of the equation.
I also did some tricep pulldowns and was fine on those too.
I think if I stick to seated exercises I’ll be okay doing a short session each day just to keep my upper body active.
I haven’t done any leg weight training at all for three weeks now but I will see if that’s possible tomorrow.
Step by step I’ll get there! :cool: