Pedestrians versus Cyclists - Who's to Blame?

I’m glad I no longer have a bike. I gave it up several years ago when I stopped feeling safe on the road.

I love cycling but these days I’m far more selective about when and where I cycle. There are idiot cyclists and idiot motorists!

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I saw on our news last night an old lady stepped out to cross the road and was knocked and killed by a cyclist. He was apparently doing about 29 mph in a 20 mph zone.

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I was going to add that there are also idiot pedestrians - I’ve had plenty step out in front of me without checking if anything is coming. But given the above post …

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I suppose there is also pollution and energy use, especially for short distances, which a cyclist is not bothered about. Most major nations seem to be failing dismally to meet their targets at the moment according to the media reports. If multiple safe transport options are available this must assist with car addiction.

Quite Lincolnshire, I think that we are thinking the same way.

This is the case I was referring to in post 742. Apparently cyclists can exceed speed limits without prosecution.
Cyclist escapes prosecution after fatal collision with pensioner (msn.com)
We also had a woman knocked down and killed by a cyclist in Edinburgh this week.
Woman dies days after being hit by cyclist in Edinburgh - BBC News

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Typical attitude from the entitled cyclists amongst us, is to believe everyone but themselves are idiots.

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You’re right Anise, they are a menace and give us a bad name.

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I’ve yet to see any statement from an entitled cyclist in these recent posts. Nor any claim that everyone but cyclists are idiots. Perhaps you could highlight the words that made you think what you wrote?

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I think you’ve misunderstood L.
‘Amongst us’ meaning cyclists in general - not any cyclist specifically on this site, or any who have posted so far.

There is no speed limit applied to cyclists. This wasn’t a problem in the past but now we have e-cycles which can be fiddled with, e-cyclists and also e-scooterists can go at great speed. They are much quieter than cars and can be much faster than cars (as they can navigate speed bumps and don’t have to worry about a speeding ticket).

Motorists have the same issue to deal with. We live in a country where an accident is hardly ever the pedestrian’s fault so we have to watch out for pedestrian actions. This is not the case in many other countries where pedestrians can be fined for walking out into the road. Both cars and cycles go faster than a pedestrian and have brakes. Cyclists are meant to use their bell well in advance. I hardly ever hear one doing so.

Soz, clear misunderstanding (winds neck back in)

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The bell is OK but I’ve found that ringing it can annoy people (if the look on their faces is anything to go by). It’s maybe like saying, “Move aside or wait, I’m coming through!”. It can also make people jump which equally upsets them. Can’t please people sometimes.

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I’m destined to remain a pedestrian. I still can’t ride a :bike:

I am courteous to :bike: though…

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The way I deal with that one Mart is as soon as eye contact is made just acknowledge with smile, nod and thanks. It’s worked for me so far although I probably shouldn’t tempt fate.

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Making the presence known when approaching pedestrians from behind is more the problem. A bike that rattles helps …or just wait until a wide space crops up to move past. A clear of the throat or a sniff can work. :slight_smile:

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perhaps someone should invent an electronic one that says “excuse me please” and “thank you, have a lovely day” after

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Yes, certainly room for an invention there. :slight_smile:

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