It sure is Muddy, I always look in my door mirror before opening the door…
I would consider it my fault if a cyclist or a vehicle were to run into my door.
Trouble is, these days people expect their car to do everything for them.
Follow the white lines, reverse into a parking space, and brake before hitting something.
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Just wait till its all Leccy Foxy, there will be gadgets coming out our earholes, BTW, 2030 is supposed to be the end for the internal combustion car, who will be stupid enough to buy one after say 2025? 
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I have the distinct suspicion that there will still be petrol and even diesel vehicles long after 2030, not that I’ll be too worried about it by then, though you never know.
I think the amusing thing will be that where will all the additional electricity come from for all the supposed millions of electric cars in only eight years’ time?
Are any new nuclear power stations being brought online? Are thousands of windmills appearing daily on our hills? Have they even thought about opening up our North Sea gas fields or even our shale gas fields in the North?
I have heard recently that we are, once again, beginning to burn coal for electricity generation (at Drax). Are we going to open coal mines again?
Carrie and Greta will have a fit!
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Deleted as irrelevant to the thread subject!
Be alert from now on as, today’s the day the new rules come in.
Just so you don’t forget…the new Highway Code hierarchy is as follows:
- Pedestrians
- Cyclists
- Horse riders
- Motorcyclists
- Cars/taxis
- Vans/minibuses
- Larger passenger vehicles/HGVs
Happy Motoring!
This selfish behaviour is annoying and the new rules are tackling this problem - they make it clear that cyclists should pull over to the left and allow vehicles to pass them.
Extract from Rule 72 Road Positioning:
Ride in the centre of your lane, to make yourself as clearly visible as possible, in the following situations:
• on quiet roads or streets – if a faster vehicle comes up behind you, move to the left to enable them to overtake, if you can do so safely
• in slower-moving traffic - when the traffic around you starts to flow more freely, move over to the left if you can do so safely so that faster vehicles behind you can overtake
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Time to leave the car at home? I want to know where these e scooters figure in the law. I saw one yesterday weaving on and off the pavement. So annoying. I stopped for some pedestrians at a junction last night and they were astonished. After about a minute they crossed the road.
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I’ve noticed there is a political online battle brewing between cyclists and e scooterers. I’ve seen posts of e scooters exploding in houses and causing a blaze, with a caption “should have used a bike instead” etc. I’d like to see how cyclists react when these contraptions are allowed to use cycle lanes.
I am strongly opposed to e-scooters using public footpaths or “shared use” pedestrian footpaths. I just wondered if they figured in this mad highway code change. It’s all been hush hush and in the meantime increasing numbers of e scooter nutters are turning up on roads, no lights no helmet, dressed in dark clothing at night. No sign of anyone fining them or confiscating equipment. A shambles. Most of these people look perfectly capable of walking so I don’t see how this is an eco option as they would likely not own a car. What is the idea behind using an e scooter in the park? They should be totally banned there as should cycles. Only wheelchairs and prams should be allowed rather than a cyclist or scooter shooting up behind or past people peacefully walking or sitting. ::Grumble grumble::
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What about, when you’re walking along the pavement, then you come to a petrol station, am I supposed to wait for the person in the car whose indicating to pull in, do I give way to him, therefore as a pedestrian stop, so he can come in?
I’ve always stopped and let them in…same when they exit…shouldn’t they stop as we’re the ones walking along the pavement?
They never do they always pull out in front of me…letting me know they have the right of way…even though I’m walking along the pavement…I really don’t understand that…I may phone the police and ask.
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They are supposed to wait for you to cross. That’s why the law is so confusing because pedestrians will be standing staring at the motorist, the motorist staring at the pedestrians. It’s what happened to me last night. Pedestrians will be most confused because they won’t know whether they can trust the motorist. Hence it’s just nuts.
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Meanwhile, when a pedestrian suddenly steps into the road assuming you can stop in time, the car behind you whacks you up the backside because you have unexpectedly, and suddenly stopped!
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Annie, This is what l was thinking, we will become a nation of ditherers.
Exactly, because you are on the pavement, they have to give way to the right ,before they can exit the petrol station, therefore should give way to me as I’m the one walking along the pavement.
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Yes gridlock and stress. The rules in other countries are the opposite. I wonder whether they are being changed. If you cross the road in some European countries or the US (I believe) then you are run over, you as a pedestrian will be equally liable and can even be charged. If you cross a road when the little man is red for you, you can be fined in some countries. Zebra crossings are for pedestrians only when there is no vehicle (you are not allowed to cross elsewhere). Have you ever been to Marrakesh? Trying to cross the road there and you take your life in your hands. Now imagine all these foreign drivers on our roads and how they will interpret new rules. Will they even read them? Nuts.
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I’m not sure if the rules are the same on leaving a junction. I can’t remember to be honest, there are so many stupid diagrams and so much misinterpretation. But I would always give way to pedestrians on leaving a petrol station anyway.
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Yep. I agree with all this Annie.
They are a damn menace.
They weave in and out of people and cars, with no warning whatsoever.
I have never yet seen one wearing a helmet, which at least most cyclists, so what protection have they got if they get knocked over a car bonnet? Then no doubt, the motorist would get the blame!
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Just phoned the police, I’m going onto their website to get a valid answer.
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A great use of police time. Ask them about the Sue Gray report while you are at it! 
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All well and good, but we all know that the more bolshy cyclists won’t give a toss and will carry on as usual, quite simply because they know that they cannot be identified.
I have dashcams, but even if I provided a recording to the police, they’d just laugh at me saying that they have no idea who these people are.
All it needs is a small number plate on the back mudguard or saddle fitted compulsorily. It wouldn’t cost much and could be recorded with the authorities at a minimal charge. Not going to happen, of course.
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