"New Kip" will you vote for them?

I can’t remember how long I’ve been a member here but I only logged in occasionally and didn’t post on the threads much when we had the old forum format, so I feel a bit like a Newbie on here, since I only started posting more when the new forum format was introduced.

I don’t remember there being two Brexit Forums - were you allowed to read and post on both forums? I would have wanted to be part of them both so I got to read the points of view from both sides.
We are all a bit susceptible to confirmation bias, so I try to avoid reading only stuff that reinforces an existing point of view. I like to read a variety of opinions from all sides of the debate.

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@Harbal ,. I endorse that Harbie !!
Donkeyman! :+1::+1:

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You haven’t quoted what it is that you endorse, so I assume you mean that you also welcome Maree’s presence here. :+1:

Yes, we shouldn’t just be defined by our views on Brexit. :slightly_smiling_face:

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I’m afraid I can’t answer the Question of where the articles with the headlines you saw disappeared to - maybe they removed or edited the articles to correct their error?

The only article I found about it was in The Telegraph, using the headline
“ Right-wing populist party biggest threat to Tories in next election, warns think-tank”

Their headline is misleading too because it does not clarify what the Report actually stated.

I think I’ll step down from Detective Duties now and leave it there. :face_with_monocle:

@Boot , ln answer to your questions Boot,
In the beginning there was BREXIT only !
Then there was For AND Against !! Which posters had to register to belong to!
God had decreed that the two must never mix or speaknto each other !!
Fortunately the FORS flourished and multiplied but the AGAINST’s sadly
withered and perished due to excessive anxiety and depression causing
some of them to throw themselves over the cliff edge that they
so feared !!
Here endeth the first lesson !!
Donkeyman! :+1::grin::grin::+1:

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Or maybe you told them they weren’t welcome on your forum, so they took umbrage, quit for more inclusive climes and left you to wallow in your echo chamber :wink: :rofl:

But that was The Tale of Two Brexit Forums, in days of Yore :rofl::crossed_swords:

Luckily, some of us are made of sterner stuff :muscle:t4::wink: :heart:

But I think he likes you when Brexit isn’t the subject. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Story of my life! :rofl::heart:

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Oh, don’t worry. We just ignore them!

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If those 53 seats should go to ‘the new party’ (whatever it’s called), it would be an enormous and very welcome force in the Commons and would be able to influence the Conservatives seriously - assuming that they still form the government.

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I certainly agree with this bit.

It doesn’t bother me at all because I have no worries at all about the Brexit vote ever being overturned.

Makes one wonder about the Ukraine wanting to join the EU and how long they’d have bothered staying in it if it had the same experiences as the UK.

I think Ukraine is rated as the poorest country in Europe so they will only gain, and quite considerably, by joining the EU Club.

@Morticia , Can you substantiate that Ukraine is the poorest country in
Europe ?
From what l see UK must be top of that list ?
£3 trillion public debt ???
Donkeyman! :-1::frowning::-1:

But what you see aside, are you experiencing it?

I retired last summer, and I’m living on a pension, but I’m quite comfortable. Not well off, but well able to support my wants and needs.

@Harbal , Well , l am a pensioner too Harbie, and my wife is a half
pensioner, my son lives with us but is not self supporting, So three of
us are living off of one and a half state pensions,we have no universal
credit as l keep a small current bank account for paying bills etc ?
Up to this year we have scratched bye by keeping travel and fancy foods etc
to a minimum.
This coming year is going to be a test for us l think !!
What have l observed in the six years we have been back in the UK ?
Well, the first thing l noticed was that the roads and streets were dirtier
and in worse condition than when we left 40yrs ago !
Second thing was the traffic was five times heavier, allthough the cars
were newer and usually the latest models, the drivers of these cars were
still living in houses built before WW1, and had their fancy cars all parked
in the roads and on the pavements ??
I could go on, but to keep it short, my impression was that the country
had actually gone backwards !!
Donkeyman! :weary::weary:
P.S. Part 2 available on request!!

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You are painting a picture I recognise, and yes, you have a point.

I’m afraid that in many ways it certainly has.
Over my lifetime and experience, the nicest times in most respects I have known were the 1950s and 1960s.

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Hey - I once had a very clever collie called Kip. If he launched a new political party I would vote for my old dog.