More than 40,000 have walked away from the NHS in the past year

It is so very sad to read articles such as this one.
Thousands of fully qualified nurses leaving unable to deal with the daily rising stress and poor working conditions.

Say what you like! But, I believe this is all part of the conservative plan to sell off our NHS.

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That’s shocking … :astonished:

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I find this very disturbing as well…my daughter qualifies in November as a nurse, and despite having a job lined up, it isn’t something she is particularly enamoured about, sadly. It’s almost as if the passion for the job has drained away, or something.


@PixieKnuckles , Your daughter must go private then pixie :+1::grin::+1:

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I think that it’s more about not having the ability to Manage it properly, financially or staffing.

In my opinion, Hospital staff, From Surgeons to Nurses, are very people facing, and admired and respected by the Public.

But these people are being lost in the lack of planning, administration,.& recognition of their contribution.

Home Surgery Doctors have already blown it, in my opinion.

Note to add - I wonder how many of our parliamentarians use the NHS?

Do we give them a Private package?


Well I’m surprised there’s any nurses left!
After the horror that was covid .
The terrible stress , unsociable hours , poor pay , attacks by ghastly patients .
I heard on the radio this morning some hospitals are getting food banks for staff . Bloody awful when you read about tax cuts for the wealthy.



I am in hospital and seeing it first hand.

More and more paperwork, more contract staff who take time to know the system and where everything is

The shifts are 12 and a half hours and on a general ward they can have 14 patients each and only one shared health care assistant.

They are seriously underpaid and can earn far more by leaving the NHS and working in the same hospital as contract staff


@Donkeyman She is thinking about this, (much to my horror, I admit). Her placements so far have taken their toll and she has been treated like a regular nurse. I want her to be happy, but I also want her to stay in the NHS because she is really good with the patients and so gentle with them, as opposed to being snippy and stressed. Perhaps a bit of both would work :+1:

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@swimfeeders , Bloody hell Swimmy, you mean they don’t even have leave
first ?
Looks like the privatisation programne is going well then ??
These Tories are really sneaky eh !
I bet all the top specialists are all Tories !!
Barstids !! :-1::worried::worried::-1:

It’s a world wide problem after 2 years of pandemic, they are talking about 25% leaving in Australia. I doubt it is to do with the privatisation of the NHS (though that may be another issue).

As with any job, raising the pay might ease stresses on home life which would be useful, and changing work conditions would make work life less unattractive. A combination of both would be ideal. It seems to me, based on chatting with a couple of friends who have family members in the nursing sector, that the government is doing neither sufficiently well to promote retention.

What are all this medical stuff going to do ?
The private sector surely do t need all that staff and it will lead to them offering lower wages .

From.what I gather, apparently not. External contractors charge more and pay staff more.

So the NHS ends up paying the same staff through a third party which costs more ?


Afraid so.

This is what the wife of a friend of mine told me recently, and she was a ward manager with around 25 years experience in nursing, so is probably knowledgeable. She’s also a Tory voter (or used to be) so there’s no political axe being ground.

(As an aside, the same situation is often true when schools employ supply teachers, so it’s not unique).

not just nurses either my son has left the NHS, a qualified psychologist , to work for his local council with a lot more take home pay

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Muddy, a HCA is paid minimum wage in the NHS, working the same shift on the same ward means that they get an extra £102 a shift.

They don’t get as good a pension or holiday or sick pay but when you have kids you need the take home pay.

On top of that the NHS pay the agency company

We are all experts when it comes to pointing out what is wrong with the NHS.
But If the problems were easily solved, someone would have thought of it by now.
Could it be that the NHS is ‘top heavy’ with admin staff and managers?
Could it be that the rewards are not sufficient, and you will earn more serving burgers at Maccy dees for less stress?
Could it be that our young people would sooner enlist in further education rather than go to work?
Has the NHS made a rod for it’s own back by filling the hospitals with non-essential appointments and surgical procedures? Patients are being referred with dental problems because there are not enough dentists (a knock on effect) The elderly are bed blocking due to a lack of nursing and care homes.
Has the NHS failed to keep up with the building and staffing of hospitals and doctors surgeries due to a massive rise in the population?
Has Covid just burned out the heart of the NHS?
There are many questions, and not so many answers.

…and study for medical qualifications such as a nursing degree?

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