I don’t get it here, or over there. You’re angry so you shoot a bunch of strangers, then yourself. It has to be because of publicity. It blows my mind that some people are wired so bad it seems like a good idea to them. When the fu## did this happen to us.
Have just googled Incel…speechless.
I don’t get it either, but still it happens.
If not by gun then by knife, or by crashing a car, or by using medication … it happens.
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True people will always find a way to kill each other. Take away guns and then it’s bombs or poison. It’s the people we need to fix.
Yes, indeed we do.
Sadly the priority is always on other things although mental health is at last seeing at least some recognition.
Apparently, he held a gun licence, but it’s not clear at this stage whether it is for the gun used during the shooting. Reports on Twitter this morning say (according to witnesses), that a pump-action shotgun was used.
He ruefully reflects that other men have wives and children to support them.
“Does an incel, a virgin get that? No,” he continues.
“I’m socially isolated have no social circle and don’t know any girls. Been in male dominated environments most my life. Last girl I spoke to was when i was 18 years old unless you count cashiers and supermarkets.”
Comments made by Davison below his YouTube videos further espouse the worldviews of an incel, short for involuntary celibate.
The subculture is made up of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually. Their views are characterised by deep misogyny and hostility towards the opposite sex.
In one online comment, Davison, who is a weightlifter, said he had been “consuming the blackpill overdose”.
The blackpill, named as an alternative to the so-called bluepill and redpill in the Matrix films, is a fatalist outlook centred on the belief that success with the opposite sex is determined at by genetics at birth.
According to one article online, blackpillers believe that no amount of working out (gymmaxxing), earning money (betabuxxing), or sexual strategy (running game) will ever lead to a relationship. They believe there is nothing left to do but to commit suicide (rope) or lay down and rot (LDAR)."
Irrespective of how depressed or incel he might have been feeling, what will always make him a stupid and selfish fat f&*ker in my eyes is his killing family members, especially a young girl.
If you want want to top yourself, well pi$$ off somewhere and do it. But leave others out of it.
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I often wonder if so much talk of mental illness makes, the people who suffer from it, feel that all these criminal acts are the way to deal with it.
Mentally ill people are often lonely and have nobody to talk to. If they can’t get help, we will find that these crimes will increase to an unbearable level & many more innocent lives will be lost.!
For the last month I have been talking to a man, who wanted to commit suicide, over the internet… I suspect for the same reasons as this man! I have no qualifications in this field but I have helped 2 other people abandon the idea if killing themselves, by listening & encouraging them to think differently. This man is now getting help , via a counsellor at work, & is making big efforts to find new friends & , in time, maybe a partner who understands him…
If it gets to the stage of killing themselves & others, it is too late but very sad that nobody had the time to help them!
Suicide is a single act. Turning it into this, is mind boggling. It’s the people who do this and don’t kill themselves. They show no remorse, no sympathy, they are just not regular humans. I don’t know what they are but, there is no humanity in their acts, just cowardice.
Can’t comment on the bloke you cited afterwards, but I know from personal experience (bouts of debilitating clinical depression which seem to happen every 7-8 years, and which usually have suicidal thoughts) that the last thing I ever want to do is talk to anybody while I “wait for nothing to happen”. Can’t really explain what the last part of that sentence means in simple words, and it’s not really relevant to this thread anyway.
But I’ve always had the wherewithal to go and get meds from the doctor.
Presumably this selfish ff was too stupid to work that out.
Sounds like he didn’t love himself and had to get others to validate his worth. He was only successful if others thought he was. That is incredibly sad, but why on earth he had to kill others, I have no idea 
Does look that this site had influenced his thinking.
Dex I dont know about clinical depression, but feeling depressed can start from a feeling of not being able to cope or being desperately unhappy. and the man I spoke to hadn’t been diagnosed when I first spoke to him. That is why he is in a better position now as I encouraged him to talk to his employer.
One if the other people I helped was just not looking after himself , & owing to something awful that had happened in his earlier life he didn’t care if he lived or died. I wont tell the whole story, but I managed to persuade him to seek psychological help, and although others had tried over the years & he had refused, for some reason he listened to me. That led to 10 years of psychological & psychiatric care!.
Dunno. Might be a chicken and egg situation. Seek and ye shall find, if you catch my meaning.
Who knows, maybe his fixation with guns came from playing Grand Theft Auto, or some other games, amd he was unable to separate fact from fiction.
If he had, then he might not have got so fat, had a shave (or at least kept it tidy) and found a girlfriend.
As it is, he died a sad, lonely, selfish fat fu**er.
@Twink yep. Situations differ on a 1-1 basis. Glad to hear that you managed to help at least some who could be helped by the way you went about things.
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The man who needed psychiatric care, was a shock as I have no qualifications on helping mentally disrurbed people, 
but the more you help, the more you learn, so I would never run away from somebody who needed to talk now!
Some times (and possibly even most time?), you don’t need to be medically trained to be the one person who happens to say the right thing at the right time in the right way to the right person to set things on a path out of unhappy statis.
What is laudable is that you’re willing to try, and indeed are willing to go out of your way to do so.
Not a lot of people are like that.
On behalf of occasional nutty people like myself - thanks 
No, I should thank you, your post has made me feel appreciated!
Heart-breaking simply heart breaking.