What, you want another referendum? Can you afford it?
Surely on a local issue residents should be allowed to voice their opinion Bruce.
Yes, but it will never happen because they know what the majority want and Kahn will never back down. The demise of democracy was first seen under Blair’s regime alongside the first hints of wokery🤬
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I’d love to know you guys’ ideas for reducing air pollution in built up areas - seeing as how you are certain ULEZ is not the right answer. And air pollution is a problem in our cities.
Air borne particulates, especially those emitted from older diesel engines, has been shown to be a major cause of air pollution. Funnily enough woodburning stoves, when not burning kiln dried wood, are another (big problem in posh boroughs where the lovely family home is made perfect by a woodburner).
So what’s the answer? Breaking cameras is not going to lower air pollution, is it?
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More people are at danger from knife crime than air pollution .
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Well that’s patently not true, is it? Given that every single person in a built up area will be exposed to air pollution when the particulate levels rise. So we have your knife crime victim numbers - few hundred (let’s be clear, that is terrible) on one hand. And on the other hand we have every single person living there. Looks a lot like “less” than it does like “more”.
I think you need a better argument than simple numbers. And before you raise the issue that a victim of a knife crime might well die (lot more serious than a risk of cancer, I agree) can I ask why you think we can only address one of these two things? Air pollution or knife crime. Strange its now a choice rather than both things being bad.
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Until the whole world seriously cuts back on all air and shipping travel, the air pollution problem is only going to increase. The small proportion of pollution produced by land transport and solid fuel stoves in the UK is barely adding to the overall pollution problem. A huge difference was made and soon noticed in and around London when coal as a fuel was drastically cut back by the clean air acts. The ULEZ idea was just an income generation scheme and nothing to do with the general health of Londoners and the rest of the UK. Collectively, we have not been fooled🤬
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You make a fair point about global pollution - which is true for global climate change. (Lets pass on the argument around whether one country, the UK, acts or does not act if other countries are polluting more. We’d get bogged down on that one.)
ULEZ is not about global warming, its about local air pollution. And particularly high concentrations of pollutants that can remain in one location on certain days. The main cause of these pollutants in cities is vehicle engines. So surely the principle of limiting the number of highly polluting vehicles is right - or do you disagree with that?
Of course ULEZ is also a revenue generating mechanism - needed in London because the government has cut the subsidy to TfL to zero. That decision is the one worth debating.
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ONS/GOVUK Poor air quality is the largest environmental risk to public health in the UK, as long-term exposure to air pollution can cause chronic conditions such as cardiovascular and respiratory diseases as well as lung cancer, leading to reduced life expectancy.
Imperial College London, globally renowned experts in air quality research, have looked at the health burden of air pollution in London. Their research found that in 2019 toxic air contributed to the premature deaths of around 4,000 Londoners. This includes deaths from all causes, including respiratory, lung cancer and cardiovascular diseases.
Poor air quality is costing the NHS millions each year .
The medication my husband needed was flown over from Germany each month at a cost to the NHS , the tablets £75 per each .
I hate to think of todays cost.
Action is needed and quickly .
I don’t believe it should be a case of if the major polluters continue it’s pointless the U.K. doing anything…lead by example.
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Talk about topics going off topic.
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Does it matter though, really, which side of the Ulez argument you’re on when it comes to Laurence Fox being arrested?
The is the law he allegedly broke
And this is one of his posts on Twitter he allegedly broke it with
It will be for the judge to decide if he does get charged
But he’s whinging away on Twitter about how unfair it all is?
Why? If you challenge the system and want to shave your head and be a revolutionary, then that system is bound to knock you back?
And all the people sympathising because they agree with him on Ulez 
Do they really think it’s OK for people whose opinions they agree with to break the law and not be arrested, charged or punished for it? Because that’s unfair🤷♀️
But people whose opinions they don’t agree with should be pursued with the full vigour of the law? 
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Remember Trump?
By making Laurence Fox a martyr and prosecuting him they will have stirred up a hornets nest of anti-social behaviour. It’s what people do when they have no other choice, illegal or not.
Just saying…
City centres I agree with you concerning pollution, but there is no pollution on the outskirts of London. There was a bloke on GB News going round measuring air pollution in the surrounding areas and it turned out to be nil or negligible. People in these rural areas need vehicles to run businesses and to commute and shop. If there were reliable forms of public transport it would be a start, Khan hasn’t thought this through has he.
This is off piste
I think you’ll find the suburbs are polluted the main polluters being ozone, nitrogen dioxide, carbon monoxide, sulphur dioxide.
Indeed some 2000 sites ! Many rural the cause heavy traffic flow
I was so concerned before buying my home I had air quality test .
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I see Liz Truss is a fan of GBNew. Or does she think that gives her cred.
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It’s not me Ripple, I’m only reporting on what the bloke found with his pollution tester on GB News. Do you live around London? And have you tested the air quality there?
I live in Central London, have done for 50 odd year, nowt wrong with my lungs.
But I did spend my first 20 years in the Cotswolds.
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She’ll be needing a job soon perhaps?
Five or six cops raided his house ?
What is he superman ?
To quote The Guardian
For lo, the next day Laurence’s house was raided by five or six police – which will certainly make some Londoners wonder whether the best way to get the Met to make a house call when you’ve had a burglary is to be a twat on a podcast.
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Hi
Spot measurements are not accurate OGF.
What is needed is a machine which can sample for a week and which is used under different weather conditions.
All Councils used to have a number of these and the results sent off to a Government Department.
This was stopped under Austerity and has been replaced by a formula, which is basically a guess.
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