Joy and glee at the BBC!

I think that there was a lot of misplaced trust, by the UK, in that they felt that the EU would be cooperative, rather than outright destructive, when it came down to how the exit would work and what our relationships would have been like afterwards.

Both sides have taken the hit. It was not necessary.

But that’s history, now,. and we’re a lot wiser than we were!

We’re (theoretically) out.

But it will take a lot of time to be convinced.

Well I am not particularly well informed, nor do I take much interest in political affairs, but it was obvious even to me that the EU would most certainly not want the UK’s exit from the EU to look like a good idea. The last think they would want would be for other members to be tempted to take the same course as us. And why should they make things easy for us? It is the duty of the EU to put their own interests first, just as it is our government’s duty to put our interests first. In that respect, I would say the EU is making a better job of it than our government.

You tell me. Probably, housing and feeding millions of illegal immigrants.

@wishbone , That’s probably because we are still paying in to
the EU , apparently they want us to pay for projects we signed
up to but have not been started yet!( and probably never will?)
How can we spend money we have allready spent?
Donkeyman! :thinking::thinking:

@ Tedc, The truth will out WHEN the Tories replace Boris !!
The trouble will be finding a genuine BREXIT supporter in that
motley crew ??
Donkeyman! :-1::frowning::-1:

Assuming they can. I’m not sure there are any genuine Brexit supporters in the Tory Party any more, and there certainly aren’t any in the other established parties.

Brexit has happened, whoever leads the country has to lead it in the light of that. Surely, competence is what is needed now, rather than a positive attitude towards past events. :102:

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Trying to find solutions to any problems brexit may have caused is miniscule compared to the problems that green policies are going to cause for our young people. And it’s already started with excessive energy bills, replacing traditional vehicles with electric vehicles that the ordinary person will not be able to afford, and those who can will either be paying top dollar for their electricity, or be rationed, all possible due to the new smartmeters everyone was happy to install.
And just to return to the original topic, it’s not just Boris the BBC are being biased about. They never miss a trick to brainwash us about how mankind is destroying the planet and creating severe weather events, which everyone knows…Or at least should know, are caused by natural phenomenon…Only fools would believe that we have the power to alter climate change…

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Johnson was never a Brexit supporter any way. He was always pro EU before

He just told you lot he was so he could be PM

He hadn’t got one principle he wouldn’t sacrifice to his selfishness

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We have sent a lot of crap up into the atmosphere since the start of the industrial revolution, Foxy, and I would say that only a fool would not even consider that it might have done some damage. While ever that remains a possibility, the least we should do is take steps to stop it getting worse.

As for you, you need to keep your emissions to a minimum when you are out running. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Nail on the head again.

Ok so you admit it wasn’t spent on what was promised on the side of the battle bus than for the NHS…now that’s lying

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Did it say that £350 million would be spent on the NHS?
Did it say that ALL of the money we used to pay to the EU would be spent on the NHS?
Read it again.

Be honest, JBR, it was designed to give that impression. And the implicit promise was given by people who didn’t even know if they would be in a position to deliver it, even if Brexit happened. Their assumption that the leaders of the Brexit campaign would automatically form the subsequent government was arrogant to say the least.

The world is self cleaning Harbal, otherwise the planet would have died years ago. The major contributor to any pollution that currently circulates the globe is that from the 30 or so active volcanoes that spew out more CO2 and large particle debris in one year than man has created since the industrial revolution. Most of our pollution is local, and could be cleared up in months (like we did with the London smog) if we could apply the same strict rules that were present during lockdown, but at what cost to the economy and health of the population when poverty would be common place. I’m not saying we can’t make our environment a better and less polluted place to live, but thinking we can alter the weather patterns of the world is just stupid. The sun is responsible for our climate and always will be.

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I don’t suppose you have the details, do you, Foxy, so that I can apply the principle to my flat? :thinking:

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Personally I didn’t vote for brexit because the things that were written on the side of a bus, or promises made about the money saved. I voted for brexit because I’m patriotic and wanted control of my country back in the hands of our parliament. Perhaps things haven’t worked out like I expected them to, but at least we have taken the first step and I would take up arms if necessary to defend this island just like my father and grandfather before him…Long live the Queen…
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@Maree, l think we have allready agreed that Boris is a tosser
Maree ? As you have allready admitted you don’t believe in
democracy then l can’t think what more we have to talk about??Perhaps you should go and live in Europe and leave us to go to
hell in our own way ?
Donkeyman! :thinking::thinking:

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Now then, Foxy, don’t you go and do anything rash. :grimacing:

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@wishbone , Because we are still paying it into the EU WB !!
To pay for projects that we committed to, but we’re never started
or completed, l believe they want us to pay for another ten years ?
Donkeyman! :-1::frowning::-1:

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