Joy and glee at the BBC!

Thankfully we don’t seem to be seeing so much of Beth Rigby these days. Probably since she was caught partying with her Sky News colleague Kay Burley during lockdown. Burley was suspended for 6 months and I have a feeling Rigby might have been too. Anyway, it took the wind out of her sails for a while which is a good thing.

How Burley has the brass neck to question and belittle others on lockdown rules is beyond me. Seems she has just erased her own misdemeanours from her memory. :wink:

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Democracy is partly about not disqualifying someone from office just because he disagrees with you about leaving or remaining.

@Maree , There you go again, a typical remoaner !
’ however unfair the referendum was’ ??
You lost, get over it!
Democracy only demands that the majority wins, not that the
decision needs to be informed in any way !
How else could the less fortunate among us ever get their say
without outright revolution ?
I agree entirely with your assessment of Boris!
Tea and cake sounds nice ?
Donkeyman! :+1::+1:

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Well said, Donk.

I respect the views of those who voted to remain in the EU, as there were some small advantages, and they have every right to express their opinions.

On the other hand, we had a fair referendum in which every person of voting age had a say. Yes, it was close - about a million, I believe - but there was a clear majority in favour of Brexit.
Whenever we have had general elections, one side has won and the other has lost. In those instances there has never, at least in my memory, been such a great deal of objection to the winners having won.

We live in a democracy (thankfully) and the referendum was a democratic decision. For God’s sake, remoaners, get over it. You lost.

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@Harbal , Politicians get elected if their stated policy appeals
to a sufficient number of their constituents Harbie !
Whos talking about disqualifying anyone ??
Donkeyman! :thinking::thinking:

This is nothing new!! It began many decades ago every time a Tory slip up was gleefully announced many times throughout the day. The quicker they loose the licence fee the happier I will be😁
Edited to add … another thing the BBC is guilty of, is somehow thinking a PM is the office manager of No 10 and all of its associated offices.
Prime Minister - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

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You implied that you wouldn’t approve of a “remainer” being in charge. I just made a comment in response to that, but I probably wouldn’t have made the comment had I known I would be expected to justify it. :worried:

No, ain’t never going to get over it! The Brexit campaign cheated and lied and I hate each and every one of you that voted for it :smiling_imp:

It was the worst, most stupid choice ever and our poor country and our poor children and poor grandchildren are going to be paying for it for years.

But once that corrupt, stupid decision was made, they should still have done it

That is the problem with democracy. What the majority decide often isn’t right, decent or fair. But what else is there?

And as soon as we’d Brexited, just like now, I’d have been working to get us back in, keep ties with Europe and trying to help stop the worst of the damage from it😠

But I still feed my Brexity mates tea and cake! Coffee and Walnut do ya?

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There is no room in this forum for hate Maree.

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Nah, I know, I know, I don’t really hate you, joking! :smiling_imp:

Well, she got caught out and paid the price so I think she’s entitled to ask why the same doesn’t apply to Johnson now he’s got caught out?

Can we suspend him for six months? Pleeeeeze :rofl:

That is true beyond question.

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And the Remain campaign as the epitome of straight and honest campaining, I don’t think so. We never joined the EU we joined the Common Market to make trading etc easier within Europe yet it became one of the most corrupt organizations in the world with billions disappearing every year with no one held accountable.
The corruption from individual members of the Parliament made our expenses scandal look like pinching a penny from a piggy bank.

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The Socialist network is very powerful.

Thy don’t take kindly to any who want to think democratically.

(examples - Hong Kong, UK, etc.).

The EU was founded on a “Manifesto” (look it up).

You don’t get freedom to leave.

You don’t get an unbiassed media.

Sadly, honesty was never in the plan for either side, in Brexit, as each side took on the concept that selling your ideas is not going to work if you tell it like it really is…

Partly because one side was going to remove all the gains, pour encourager les autres, whilst the other side felt the need to talk up the politicians who never had the will or the way.

Not to mention all the traitor PMs who went over there to help the EU understand what cards we might play, no doubt they’ll have their knighthoods.

Remember, we thought Knighthoods were for"service to the people"

There’d be a lot fewer car sales, etc, if all salesmen were honest.

Bottom line - Don’t knock dishonesty. It’s everywhere .Just learn to use it.

:sleeping_bed:

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Politicians have to be dishonest, because they depend on the public for support, and the truth would often get in the way of that. It is forgivable when their motive is to do what is most beneficial for their country, but many of the liars who led the Brexit campaign acted more in the interests of their own careers than those of their country. Among them, there is no more disgraceful example of that than Boris Johnson. The man possesses not a scrap on integrity.

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Did it? Did it really? How?
In what way did the Brexit campaign cheat and lie? Specifics please.

So the problem with democracy is that majority decisions are often not right, decent or fair, eh?
Perhaps we should have a system where a minority makes all of the important decisions.
A dictatorship then?

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The logo on the side of their battle bus for a start

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They grossly understated the Irish border problem, for one thing. They knew damn well there was not a satisfactory solution to it, yet they insisted there would be. There was no concern about what problems were going to be created for whom. Their attitude was utterly negligent.

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Let me see.
I admit to having forgotten the exact wording on the ‘battle bus’, so I have googled pictures of it and the message I see is:
“We send the EU £350 million a week
Let’s fund our NHS instead Vote Leave” (quoted verbatim).

Where are the lies?
How much did we send the EU every week?
“Let’s fund the NHS instead” does not state that we would pay exactly that figure to the organisation. Even so, I’m not sure how much we do pay the NHS per week.

Could you clarify exactly what the ‘cheating and lying’ was please?

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right what has the 350 million been spent on…certainly not the NHS

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