If you were alone in a room with Thatcher, what would you do?

I think thereā€™d be a lot of people in that queue Mike, haha!

I remember how Ding Dong The Wicked Witch is Dead got to number one or two in the charts the week following her death:

I think she was a despicable, evil person - I hope the likes of her never gets into a position of power ever again.

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All things considered it was a long time ago, itā€™s not just about where weā€™ve been itā€™s about where weā€™re going, dead politicians arenā€™t exactly an inspiration in my book, forgive my melancholia if you willšŸ˜”

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Hopefully we can learn from the past - and vow to never let a horrid person like her in power ever again :blush:

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OK Who do you think hasnā€™t been horrid since her? :grinning:

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I am not sure that she was evil but she was an ideologue and she certainly broke Britain as a cohesive society. As I have said before I visited Britain in the late 1980s, it was a run down, drab, dirty place under her leadership. It has improved since that visit but as a country and a society Britain has never fully recovered. She set Britain up for failure and the downward spiral it has followed ever since.

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Now that you mention it :scream: :sob: !!

Iā€™m positive she was. She was in a position where she would have known first hand how much people were suffering or would suffer from her policies.

The tories continued where she left off, and things are only going to get worse. I hope the younger generation revolt and do something about our broken govts, institutions and laws - they all protect grotesque greed.

It makes me so angry that everyday decent folk are having to worry about heating their homes or feeding themselves while the greedy billionaires get richer and richer and the poor get exploited and poorer and poorer.

Even someone like Major who came across as being quite nondescript had an affair with the ghastly Edwina :grinning:

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Never mind Starmer will change all that.(Joke)

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Well I wouldnā€™t have said no to Edwina, deffo worth making breakfast for Iā€™d imagine, scrambled eggs?

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Nah, she,d like her eggs unfertilisedā€¦

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I can only speak for Maggie from a personal perspectiveā€¦and My parents managed to buy their own home which made them very happy. They had worked hard all their lives and saved for their dream home, they deserved it and Maggie made it possible. Iā€™ve also done very well out of herā€¦She certainly rewarded people who got their finger out and worked hard instead of striking, protesting and moaning about their lot in life.

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That is the question, what is hard work? some think just getting out of bed is!!!

Why do people have to work themselves into the ground just to make greedy repugnant billionaires and the power hungry even richer? :upside_down_face:

I wish more people would read this: Civilized to Death by Christopher Ryan you can live a meaningful life and add tremendous value to humanity and you donā€™t need to become a slave to the system to do it :smiley:

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I had much admiration for Mrs T.
Hubby & I ran a business throughout her ā€˜reignā€™ & we were never harmed by anything she did.

The only prime minister since Churchill to be afforded a state funeral.

I wish we could find another like herā€¦

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I am always moved by the film ā€œbrassed offā€ yes coal mining was hard dirty work but the coal miners continued and wanted to continue until Maggie struck.

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Not sure actual ā€œworkā€ changes any outcomes, donā€™t think true animals consider anything ā€œmeaningfulā€, they just survive, maybe for an outcome beyond their control :smiley:

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Ya gotta getaway from the blame culture!

You should check out your facts Bretā€¦Harold Wilson (Labour) actually closed more pits than Maggie ever did.

Our friend was a miner. He said that, after the troubles died down, he was glad never to have to go down the pits again. Having been down one myself during a trip to Yorkshire, I can see why.

I canā€™t remember the name of the pit but one was kept open as a museum and our friend broke his vow never to go down another and came down with us (even got Mrs mart down in her wheelchair). A dire place to work Iā€™d say. One that a person would get used to but not a good environment.

We used to travel from Denaby to Barnsley while we were staying with them and could see new shopping centres, factories and businesses springing up all over the vast stretches of flat land between those two towns. I canā€™t say without actually living there but that entire area of Yorkshire appeared have recovered from the pit closures and even looked to be a boom area as regards business and employment. Maybe OGF would be able to say if that really is the case now.

Troubled times with Mrs Thatcher but right or wrong, I donā€™t believe her policies are anything to do with current day problems. Itā€™s too far back in history for that to be the case in my opinion ā€¦all apart from one thing.

We both lost our houses in failed marriages and eventually ended up in a council house. She allowed us to buy it. We have since sold and moved on. This was maybe not good but the real mistake was that councils were not allowed to build another council house for each one sold. Hence a shortage of housing today.

If I could ask one question of her it would be why more council houses werenā€™t built with the money from sales.

We may be frowned on for buying a council house but I think most under the same circumstances might have found it hard to resist on the grounds of principle. We therefore benefited under the Thatcher era. Whatever her faults, she could never be accused of being wishy-washy like todayā€™s politicians seem to be, trying to please all people by blowing in the wind and ending up pleasing nobody.

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A good post Mart, and it more or less describes the reasons why I believe the things I do concerning Brexit, my environment and the Thatcher years.
In her later years Mrs Thatcher realised it was a mistake to be part of the EEC as it was known then. She could see where it was eventually leading (total control from Brussels) One of the reasons she was stabbed in the back by her colleagues. The upper classes made lots of money out of the common market and were loath to have to leave the gravy train, irrespective of the trade, industry and jobs that would be lost as the EEC sucked the life out of this country and leaving it in the condition we see it today.
One of the reasons she adopted the slogan of ā€˜Buy Britishā€™ a philosophy we should adapt today. I worked in the engineering sector. There were factories in abundance scattered around Sheffield, Rotherham and Barnsley. Factories full of skilled engineers but sadly lost today. The EU, with their red tape and compliance rules made it difficult for small family run establishments to compete with the large global conglomerates. And with the demise of the coal, fishing and steel producing industries all the engineering firms and communities who supported those industries were also lost or turned into poverty and decay. Farmers also bought their machinery from foreign based factories instead of home grown machinery resulting in the closure of the massive International Harvester company, just up the road from me, that was purchased by Case with production moved to Italy. The story is a common one around here with companies like ICI, Crompton Parkinsonā€™s, Pilkingtons Glass, SR Gentsā€¦and many others who either went out of business or moved to foreign countries. It all comes from China nowā€¦
So no, this area has been devastated now with a large influx of foreign nationals occupying whole streets of slums, with no work to speak of shops have closed and the local population have moved out of town into the suburbs. Fortunately it is recovering but the work is very different to the sixties, seventies and eighties. It now consists of mainly warehouse jobs in the many warehouses that have recently sprung up the size of small African countries packed to the rafters with Chinese manufactured goods while our skilled people are either retired or are assisting shoppers with advice or helping them to find stuff in the local B&Qā€¦Which again is all produced in China.

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