I wonder if I can get a similar stamp? it would save carrying two passports but would probably cost money or they might not even do it now.
BTW the top left entry stamp was when British Passport holders didn’t need a visa, the returning resident visa was after the Whitlam Government changed the rules while I was visiting the UK so a British passport holder needed a visa like everyone else. (look at the dates). I just went to Australia House and they stamped it I think.
The gov website is right. It says you can’t use an ETA if you are a dual nationality British citizen. The rules themselves must be very confusing for anyone with dual nationality.
The only advantage of the very expensive “certificate of entitlement” seems to be that you don’t have to keep renewing it every time you renew a passport, but there will doubtless be a digital transfer fee so it’s not clear what the point of this is rather than having a British passport. Presumably they have to make people pay a premium for the development of a separate system for a relatively small number of those who need it vs those who don’t. It’s as though dual nationality is a privilege for the wealthy.
You’d think they would be making things harder for those who don’t have British citizenship rather than the other way around. Crazy world we live in.
This seems like a “Game for a laugh” joke, so in other words, the UK is NOT protecting its borders from non-nationals but from its OWN nationals, that’s weird to say the least. Someone’s gone completely bonkers. >They’ve got it all the wrong way round Annie yes.
is strongly advised to always travel with both a valid UK passport and a valid EU passport, and to be ready to show either one at different points of your journey.
I found this on the link you posted Annie, can you imagine the confusion this is all going to cause?
I feel offended and disappointed, I had always been proud of my British citizenship, but now? It’s a burden, don’t you think @Bruce ?
I recently renewed my Italian passport because we were planning on a holiday to London, I guess we’re going to change destination if they don’t want me there.
I think the certificate of entitlement has been confused with the ETA because the ETA will be strictly enforced from 26th Feb and it seems they are pushing for a digital ETA. As British citizens cannot use the ETA they have this expensive certificate of entitlement instead. Prepare for airport chaos and confusion!
It’s strange isn’t it that people complain more about the number of people coming here from all over the world, but when we had visa free movement with the EU we didn’t have that issue. People were saying there are too many Europeans coming here. Now they are all heading back. It’s little wonder if they set up crackpot processes such as this nonsense.
Rose there is some inaccuracy in the news report. Just a sign of how confusing the new rules are! The reporter calls it a “right of abode” and mentions that you will have to renew it every time your passport is renewed. That’s not the case.
Likewise for me too @Rose2 I was proud to be a dual national. I think the irony is that once upon a time there was a big advantage to a British passport holder because of its membership of the EU and the unrestricted travel within Europe. However now I don’t think it has any particular advantage over my Australian passport for travel anywhere.
The problem now is that it is much cheaper to get a British passport than a certificate of entitlement (which only lasts as long as the Australian Passport - mine expires in 2029) or to officially renounce British citizenship. As I said earlier they both cost over $900.
Sorry, there is one significant advantage - the British Passport is much cheaper than the Australian Passport. If I can get an Australian right of residency stamp in the British one I won’t bother renewing my Australian passport. The British one will last until I am nearly 90 and I can’t see me gallivanting about foreign parts at that age.
Ohhhhhhhhhh.
Skip the paperwork. Blue.
“There Short of Koala’s over there. Take me and Sheila.” “We like a Kip”.
And can ALL Go on the Dole. Up a Gumtree.
If one deserts the UK for another country then they also should reject everything the UK offer. Why should UK tax payers help those that abandoned the UK and want to come back, even for a visit.
You’ve just made a very good argument for giving more support and accommodation for those foreigners who enthusiastically chose to come to live in Britain by sailing there in a rubber boat haven’t you? They have demonstrated their keenness to live in Britain unlike we ex pats so they obviously deserve your support and cash.
Good on you RS, I hope your enthusiasm is infectious.
many countries require a level of contributions to be kept up by expats in order to qualify for things such as a pension and heathcare etc. They also require a certain period of contributions to be made by anyone who decides to live in a country (legally). Britain has been unusual in its approach. I think that’s down to a lack of enthusiasm for the hard work involved in setting up an administration system to track people and payments. The French seem particularly good at these things. Do they still print our passports or is that done in another European country now?
Let’s try to set out your argument here in a bit more detail and use the same argument for continuous UK residents.
One chap, born in the UK, spends his (his purely for sake of argument, could be her) entire working life in UK employment, paying tax to HMRC, paying all other taxes (VAT, duties, etc.) in the UK. Quits the UK before retirement age - so before, most likely, leaning on the state for social care, old age health care, etc. As this chap gets older all such costs are now born by the current country of residence or paid privately.
And you are seeing this cost saving to the UK and arguing that this chap should now contribute more? Even though the UK state has been a net beneficiary from them.
Another chap, also born in the UK, also spends their entire working life in the UK but not in constant employment - signs on a few times - and not always in great health - fair bit of health and social care. Retires and takes UK pension and continues to require health and social care.
And you are seeing this high cost to the UK as all fine and dandy? Even though the UK state has, and will continue to be, a net provider to them.
I’m unclear how your thinking adds up or how works out or what it is based on.
>They’ve got it all the wrong way round Annie yes.
