Thank you Bruce.
Well thatâs good enough for me.
Iâve been politely refusing flu jabs since I was 60, and this seems to have supported my decision.
Sorry Bruce but Pats categorically referred to the âflulaval package insert mythâ.
Itâs no myth. The package inserts are real, as are the packets themselves, both of which clearly state that the vaccine has no basis in truth, that there have been no controlled studies that demonstrate that there is a decrease in flu instances as a result of taking the vaccine.
You just couldnât make it up.
A vaccine which openly states on the packet that it is useless.
A vaccine that the Cochrane Library has scientifically reviewed and concluded is useless.
A vaccine that is nevertheless aggressively pushed by Big Pharma from the top down using a âCampaign Of Fearâ to convince older vulnerable people to take it up.
A vaccine that despite being useless, sees NHS staff incentivised with bonuses for pushing it out.
It is evil personified, one of the greatest scams of this decade.
âThe flulaval package insert myth makes the rounds every year. The flu vaccine changes with every flu season to keep up with the varying strains of influenza. It is evolution. Itâs not realistic to expect a controlled trial in one season, and even if they did have a study of it, it wouldnât be a longitudinal one.â https://www.facebook.com/RtAVM/posts/580677032002310
Ah, the real reason for my GP surgery trying their best to persuade me of the undoubted benefits of having a flu jab! 
Total bunkum Shadowman.
The âgreat mindsâ guesstimate which are the 3 most likely strains for a given season and put together a concoction to suit.
Nevertheless, NOT ONE SINGLE vaccine, has been tested for itâs efficacy to combat that specific strain. Not one.
The entire shooting match is one giant scam predicated on a campaign of fear.
You would imagine by now that the vaccine companies would been extremely keen to conduct such studies to pacify the masses, to put to bed all the opposition. Yet they havenât. Why?
Because they know the entire thing is a sham and a controlled study would show it for what it is.
The Cochrane Library has already conducted studies, reviewed 1000s of separate studies involving MILLIONS of people and concluded that the vaccine is useless. This is the defacto and internationally respected medical study organisation who set the international standards and protocols for which such studies should follow.
The conclusion, the scientific evidence, peer reviewed, confirms that the flu vaccine is a total scam.
Still, those in the NHS and wider medical industry are brainwashed into peddling it for profit.
Iâve been wondering whether a flu jab wouldâve prevented my current bronchitis, or my sisterâs recent hospitalisation with pneumonia, so Iâve been taking much interest in your discussion.
I just did some research into Cochrane, never heard of it before, and found thisâŠIt doesnât take long to read and is very interesting.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/855937
Edited to sayâŠApologies Realist, I think this is the same link you provided on page4 post48
Exactly !:-D:-D
If that is true for you poor darlings it is not true here, the Commonwealth Serum Laboratory take the strains that actually appeared in the Northern Hemisphere the previous winter and make a vaccine for those. It is distributed free to pensioners and people at high risk but everybody else can go to their GP or the local chemist and pay $10 for a shot, it is not compulsory.
Last year our vaccine was delayed because a strain appeared late in the northern hemisphere winter so had to be added.
[URL=âhttp://www.health.nsw.gov.au/immunisation/pages/seasonal_flu_vaccination.aspxâ]
http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/immunisation/pages/seasonal_flu_vaccination.aspx
The quadrivalent influenza vaccine for the Australian 2016 season contained the following four virus strains:
* (H1N1): an A/California/7/2009 (H1N1) - like virus
* (H3N2): an A/Hong Kong/4801/2014 (H3N2) - like virus
* a B/Phuket/3073/2013 - like virus
* a B/Brisbane/60/2008 - like virus
I get the same attempts of persuasion at my surgery too JBR.
I have lost count of the times I have politely declined.
The last time the doc even offered to do it there and was about to get a syringe until I stopped him!
Yes, she did but the rest of her message qualified that statement. You just chose to pick on that one statement to justify your extreme anti vax views without mentioning the rest of her message which laid your tactics bare.
Which just about sums your strategy up. She then went on to say:
Again identifying your drivel concisely.
I suppose we could offer to pay them NOT to do the injection!
Post247âŠHands up if youâve bothered to read the Cochrane report, it doesnât take long.
I donât get the point youâre trying to make here. Are you suggesting that the package and inserts contain incorrect information?
Or are you accepting the information on those inserts but are nevertheless disregarding it for some reason?
The answer is of course NO. The flu jab is a useless concoction of toxic ingredients which has been proven to aid about 1 in 100 people. It is more likely that the toxic ingredients (like Thimerosal) would have helped to compromise your immune system and made any condition you caught even worse.
The âcampaign of fearâ used to peddle this snake oil would have vulnerable people thinking âOh my ! I really should get the jab because otherwise I might die !â. Itâs a very sick strategy for intimidating and exploiting older vulnerable people for profits.
Yes I thought that would be your answer.
After my BigC op a few years ago I thought I should have the flu jab.
Oh man, big mistake.
How about pneumonia jab?
Well the problem is that once youâve realised that the medical industry is willing and actively duping the population with the flu jab, putting peopleâs health at risk for profit, then there follows a general lack of trust in everything related.
So, sadly, it becomes necessary to thoroughly research absolutely everything concerning your health and any treatment, medicine or vaccine proposed by that industry. Itâs a ball ache to be sure, but totally necessary.
So any vaccine youâre thinking about, research thoroughly. Establish whether there have been any studies or trials of that vaccine, how many people it involved and whether it was impartial. The latter element is vital because Big Pharma sponsors a lot of such studies and thereby ensures they get the result they want.
This is one of the merits of the Cochrane Library. They set the standards for such studies and that includes an entire element that covers who provided the money for the studies themselves and thus the likely level of bias involved. The study results will contain statements about whether the tests were impartial or not.
The entire situation is a terrible one. We canât trust the medical industry one inch and as a result we canât trust the NHS either. NHS staff are less evil in that they are just doing what they have been taught to do and told to do. Their peers say, push the flu jab and they, like the public are told that it is effective and very much needed. They think they are doing the right thing, but they havenât done the research, just absorbed the mantras passed down to them.
The implications of the situation are massive.
You have in the end 2 choices. Thereâs the comfortable easy option which is to âgive inâ and just go with whatever the medical industry tells you, allowing them to be authoritative to you, in which case you will be used for profit and likely have your health impacted. And thereâs the hard choice, which is to step out of the âMatrixâ, realise that people everywhere are trying to erode your health (through treatments, potions, pills, the foods you eat, the things you drink) so that they can make you take up expensive treatments and medications. This isnât a pleasant world to contemplate, itâs actually horrible, like some Orwellian nightmare, with criminals running the show and ordinary people being just cannon fodder for their nefarious schemes.
You have a choice. Be a victim or be a survivor.
Either way, YOUR health is YOUR responsibility, not that of any health authority. So my advice is take it seriously and look after yourself. Eat the right foods, drink the right drinks so that your immune system is on full power. Your body is a remarkable thing and WILL look after itself if you provide the right fuel.
Youâre right, R.
Iâd suggest that it is sensible to take on board all medical advice if it comes from a qualified expert. However, just bear in mind that you are at perfect liberty to accept or reject any advice you do not feel happy with. No-one can make you take any medication you do not want to.
Son & I had ours before Christmas. We have had them every year since we both qualified for a flu jab, me being a pensioner, him being diabetic. No problems at all & I have never had flu since getting the jab. Son never has either.
I can see how it might not be suitable for some people though.
Thatâs a coincidence, him being diabetic and not having had flu since getting the jab.
Iâm diabetic too and I have not had flu since never having had the jab!