It’s all smoke and mirrors Ripple… 
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Interesting choice of idiom. Smoke and mirrors, most often applied by magicians, are all about disguise, distract and hide. The sort of actions done when you want people to not notice something going on, or see one thing when in fact quite another is happening. That sounds more like what Reform are desparately trying to do now rather than what has been revealled about them. The reveal, in fact, is the very opposite of smoke and mirrors.
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More like the conventional two party gravy train swimmers wanting to keep hold of the cash cow they’ve been milking for the last forty years.
I think the tories and labour have proved they are just not up to the task of running the country anymore. How many more lame PM’s are we going to endure before people realise they are being shafted. Burnham’s out soon…NEXT!
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Maybe we’ve always been shafted?
I’m sure Farage isn’t deprived of his gravy!
Time to to take to the streets perhaps…
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It’s all becoming clear now why they want to discredit Farage…
Because Burnham wants to re join the EU and Farage would be a major thorn in his side.
Wanting to re-join the EU is the government (and previous governments) accepting that they have failed to run the country properly and are out of their depth. They will hand over the reigns to the EU and hope they will they will get us out of this financial mess…But it will come at a cost.
The youngster pool, and it’s willingness to want to travel Europe unabaited is diminishing, possibly.
It was mentioned on the ITV news tonight that over one million young people are claiming benefits because they can’t get a job. Burnham’s answer is to raise the minimum wage and that will only compound the problem.
Margaret Thatcher said buy British.
The young people can’t find jobs because there aren’t any since we stopped coal mining, shipbuilding, steel production etc etc etc…
Farage wants to bring back apprenticeships and bring industry home to the UK.
Labour wants to bring in foreign workers for the NHS and the service industries through the EU open door rules.
Talk is cheap. Prove is in the pudding - all Farage has done so far is make Britons worse off with his Brexit antics.
As for rejoining? Never going to happen.
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Actually, no-one in Burnham’s government, not even Burnham himself, are putting rejoining the EU forward. They are talking about closer ties and removing trade barriers.
I clearly recall voices in the leave campaign advocating Norway or Swiss version of a future UK relationship with the EU. I do not recall Farage ever criticising that option. So Burnham is only talking about a future relationship that was being put forward by the leave camp back in 2016. In what way is Farage a threat to that?
Nope, the problems that Farage has today are entirely created by Farage. Something about making a bed here.
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If it is indeed advantageous and possible to improve trading relationships with Europe, then the uk will be doing so as a sovereign state and not mandated as a member of the EU. This was kinda one of the main purposes of Brexit.
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Well it is now the only claimed purpose that the leave supporters can cling on to. The other much touted sunlit uplands never came about.
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That was down to subsequent political failings made by the government(s).
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According to yesterday’s BBC news, they were talking about having another referendum.
What - the Brexit we got was super flawed? In what way? Before any answer to this claim can be made you will need to explain what failings you refer to.
The talk has been:
No longer treating freedom of movement as an unacceptable red line
Ruling out the possibility of rejoining the EU in this parliament
Not to make any such change (freedom of movement or rejoining) without direct say from the public - which might be in the form of a referendum
That sounds bit different from your summary.
As I said about Farage, “Talk is cheap”
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That’s not what I said. Please refrain from putting words in my mouth. 
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I put words in your mouth by asking a question about what you said? That is a case of you putting a statement into my question…
Rather than mess about trying to find things in people’s mouths perhaps you might simply explain the failings you refered to?
You state that I said that Brexit was super flawed. Please show where I precisely said that.
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No, I asked a question. Which you are now not answering. Precisely or otherwise.