Yes the government has announced they’re bringing forward the ban on all new combustion engine cars by 2030, only ten years, hybrids will follow five years after that, so everyone will be driving EVs, if they want a new car, they’ll have to get their finger out if they want to have the charging infrastructure in place but I doubt we’ll be anywhere near ready judging by previous ideas that the government have had
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I don’t think this is entirely Climate driven (excuse the pun)…
In order to get the economy back into good condition and recover some of the money lost through covid, it requires everyone to start spending more money. What better way that to get every driver in the country to buy a new car.
There will be drivers trying to beat the deadline by purchasing the last diesel or petrol engined cars, or others making the swop to an electric vehicle…Just stand by for the rush…:surprised:
So what happens to the approx 40 million cars that will become surplus to requirement? Where will they go?
Will they all be squashed down into something the size of an 0xo cube?
Foxy, Who will be able to afford one? They don’t come cheap.
They’re not banning the use of existing ICE cars just the sale of new ones.
So it’ll be goodbye VED hello road pricing.
Good question art, I suspect there will be a lucrative market for car parts to be sent abroad, or to be used to keep existing cars on the road, although, once EVs become mainstream then the internal combustion engine will be no more…
Banning petrol and diesel cars in ten years’ time is absolutely ridiculous for several different reasons. I’m not stating anything new here. These are all things that have been widely discussed before.
Firstly, where is the generating infrastructure to provide all the necessary additional electricity? How many nuclear power stations can we build in ten years, and don’t talk to me about windmills!
Then there is the little problem of where many car owners, perhaps the majority, will charge their cars overnight. It’s OK if you have your own garage or at least a drive, but what about all those people living in terraced houses or multi-storey flats who presently leave their cars on the roadside. Will they be able to run charging cables across the pavement to their cars, hoping that no-one trips over them or nicks them?
The government have a pie in the sky idea of saving the planet by banning IC engines, but surely that would include those biggest polluters of all, HGVs. I wonder just how far they would travel on a single charge and that would be exacerbated by the far heavier loads that they carry. Many of these travel the length and breadth of the country - on one charge?
I could go on (as I’m sure you all know well enough), but that’s enough for this post. I’m sure others will add several other reasons why this half-baked idea will not work, certainly not in ten years’ time.
Road pricing has been on the agenda many times by various governments but it’s a bit of a hot potato and has been shelved in the past, but it is back on the agenda again as rishi sunak is considering it again
Yes JBR the infrastructure is nowhere near yet, not by a long way, interestingly, I read recently of a swiss family ( I think) holidaying in France, they had an electric car which in itself was perfectly fine, but when it came to charging it they found the charging points were either not working , or, they couldn’t make a payment as it did not accept their cards, I know it’s abroad, but it will be the same here unless it’s all coordinated, I’m not holding my breath…
I would love an electric car 
I drive very little these days only small local journeys so could charge it at home.
The maintenance will be a lot cheaper.
There is a subsidy to install home charging points, the problem is I can’t afford an electric car.
My friend’s daughter has just bought a Tesla car. He took me to her house to see it on the first day, she got it. It looked very sporty and l think it was quite expensive.
It seemed funny looking inside a car to see no gear stick, just a screen in front of you with a button to start the car!
I had never heard of ‘Tesla’ before but it looked impressive and she loves it. It was plugged into a socket in her garage to charge
I don’t think multi-storey flats are the issue. Where would they keep their cars? Terraced houses left on the kerbside would be a problem too. Cables as you say. But a more fundamental issue is the domestic energy requirement. And that applies to pretty much all EVs. Uprated residential meters? Then where do you get the power stations. Lots of them…
I think there is some way to go. 2030? Hm…
Many will be kept running until major work is needed and then fully refurbished with what ever is needed to keep fully roadworthy and fulfilling their designed purpose. The car as we know it today will be on the roads for many a decade to come. Why do I say this? Simply because my local and trusted car service garage has already decided what the future holds for him and many like him. e.g The discontinued Land Rover Discovery as a model has many refurbishment dealers and due to demand for fully overhauled/rebuilt examples, many of which are always available.
To answer your first query Arty, there is going to be a lot of scrap. Even though some parts can be recycled or used for spares, there will be tons of waste from a whole nation having to change from Internal Combustion Engines to Electric.
People complain about using up the worlds resources carelessly, and a change in the type of transport we use in the short space of time being allowed is just foolish and wasteful.
To answer your second query Arty, there are many people who will want to embrace the new technology. They will be scrapping or selling their perfectly good vehicles in favour of the latest model. They do now! And the market will be flooded with cheap petrol and diesel motors. Stand by for a bargain. Money is no object to most people Arty, credit comes easy, as is demonstrated by the must haves in this world always sporting the latest smartphone or smart 50"satellite TV…
They keep them in parking spaces, if provided, or on the street.
Assigned parking spaces would be fine, assuming there were sufficient, but there would remain the same problem of cables at risk of theft or vandalism.
Yes, that’s what I would do if this ill-thought-out project ever takes place.
Of course, I’m 68 and this bright idea isn’t scheduled to take place until I’m 88 and then, of course, our traditional ‘environment destroying car’ will no doubt keep going for perhaps another ten years. By then, I expect I’ll be happy to use an electric wheelchair or an electric taxi for longer journeys… if I’m still breathing.
I live in a suburb of Oxford and do not have a front garden. It is impossible to guarantee a parking space outside of my house. So home charging is a non-starter. Also I am concerned about the environmental problems with the manufacture of batteries. Lithium and cobalt are and increasing will more so need to be mined in geographically sensitive areas. Nothing yet has been planned for spent battery disposal.
That’s the crunch.
I remember a time when only rich people owned a car. Maybe that’s the goal for the future.
One thing’s for sure. By the time this could affect me personally, I won’t be driving a car any more.
Same here. I currently park my car in a car park but as yet there are no charging points. As with all government schemes, it is ill thought out. 