Electric cars by 2030

[Mups]

@Longdogs

Same here. I currently park my car in a car park but as yet there are no charging points. As with all government schemes[B], it is ill thought out.

[/B]

It might work for the more privileged ones with their own private space for multiple chargers for Mum/Dad/Kids, but I can’t see it working otherwise.
Neither could we can’t be expected to leave our cars unattended all night on public chargers, that would be a new pastime for those with criminal minds surely.

And what about all the extra load on electricity supplies? What about when we get power cuts in winters?
They are always telling us ways of saving energy as it is, then in the next breath we are to believe we will have unlimited supplies after all.

I for one, couldn’t possibly afford (or want) and electric car. They were saying on the radio this morning they will start at around £30,000 !! :shock: They then went on to attempt to pacify the broadcaster by saying - “Ah, but it will be cheaper in the long run by saving on fuel.”

I also strongly object to being forced to have I car I don’t want, or go without one altogether.

[Longdogs]

@Mups

[/B]

It might work for the more privileged ones with their own private space for multiple chargers for Mum/Dad/Kids, but I can’t see it working otherwise.
Neither could we can’t be expected to leave our cars unattended all night on public chargers, that would be a new pastime for those with criminal minds surely.

And what about all the extra load on electricity supplies? What about when we get power cuts in winters?
They are always telling us ways of saving energy as it is, then in the next breath we are to believe we will have unlimited supplies after all.

I for one, couldn’t possibly afford (or want) and electric car. They were saying on the radio this morning they will start at around £30,000 !! :shock: They then went on to attempt to pacify the broadcaster by saying - “Ah, but it will be cheaper in the long run by saving on fuel.”

I also strongly object to being forced to have I car I don’t want, or go without one altogether.

There’s no way we will cope with it. What about lorries, buses coaches?

[JBR]

@Mups

I for one, couldn’t possibly afford (or want) and electric car. They were saying on the radio this morning they will start at around £30,000 !! :shock: They then went on to attempt to pacify the broadcaster by saying - “Ah, but it will be cheaper in the long run by saving on fuel.”

Ah! Excellent!
I wasn’t aware that electricity for charging cars would be free.
In that case I might get one then.

[Mups]

@Longdogs

There’s no way we will cope with it. What about lorries, buses coaches?

They are just catering for the younger generation IMO, and those with jobs that pay well.
Us old fogeys on penions won’t be able to afford these things so easily.

Just another thing I’ve thought of - what would it cost to have a charging point put in at home, and can any electrician to it?
Where’s that Judd gone when we need him?

[Besoeker]

@Mups

[/B]

And what about all the extra load on electricity supplies? What about when we get power cuts in winters?
They are always telling us ways of saving energy as it is, then in the next breath we are to believe we will have unlimited supplies after all.

Valid points if I may say so. Roughly, your domestic energy will be doubled if you go for an EV. That’s domestic. Never mind the HV lines.

[Mups]

@Besoeker

Valid points if I may say so. Roughly, your domestic energy will be doubled if you go for an EV. That’s domestic. Never mind the HV lines.

Besoeker, would you kindly explain () what EV and HV lines are please, as many - like myself - haven’t a clue what you mean.
Ta muchly.

[Besoeker]

@Mups

Besoeker, would you kindly explain () what EV and HV lines are please, as many - like myself - haven’t a clue what you mean.
Ta muchly.

I’ll try my best…
EV is an electric vehicle. A car or SUV for example.
Local voltages here (UK) are 230V. (230 Volts) Your house is 230Vac.
High voltage is usually 11,000V or upwards like 132,000 V

[Mups]

@Besoeker

I’ll try my best…
EV is an electric vehicle. A car or SUV for example.
Local voltages here (UK) are 230V. (230 Volts) Your house is 230Vac.
High voltage is usually 11,000V or upwards like 132,000 V

Thankyou.
So in other words, EV = electric vehicle
and HV = high voltage.

Seems to me that what they keep saying we will save in petrol, will just transfer to our electric bills instead then!

And like I asked earlier, can any electrician install these charging points I wonder, or will it be your electricity suppliers even?

Can all this mammoth demand for more and more electricty be met?

[OldGreyFox]

Just when you thought it was safe to drive on the road without potholes, along comes Electric Vehicles and roadworks to put in all the extra cables… Not to mention all the substations that are going to need substantial modifications.

[OldGreyFox]

@mart

I remember a time when only rich people owned a car. Maybe that’s the goal for the future.

One thing’s for sure. By the time this could affect me personally, I won’t be driving a car any more.

Same here Mart, I reckon I will be able to run a diesel for as long as I need to. Not much to look forward to for the younger generation though.

[Mups]

@OldGreyFox

Same here Mart, I reckon I will be able to run a diesel for as long as I need to. Not much to look forward to for the younger generation though.

They will adapt quicker than our generation though Foxy, and the youngest will grow up not knowing any different.

[Besoeker]

@Mups

Thankyou.
So in other words, EV = electric vehicle
and HV = high voltage.

Seems to me that what they keep saying we will save in petrol, will just transfer to our electric bills instead then!

And like I asked earlier, can any electrician install these charging points I wonder, or will it be your electricity suppliers even?

Can all this mammoth demand for more and more electricty be met?

I don’t how it will pan out. Currently the cost for domestic energy would favour the EV. But then vehicle fuel tax is a huge chunk for petrol and Diesel. I think significantly more than the EV. Is it fair? Dunno…

[OldGreyFox]

@Mups

They will adapt quicker than our generation though Foxy, and the youngest will grow up not knowing any different.

That’s true to a point Mups, but it will take a long time for all the twenty year old plus drivers who have driven petrol and diesels to eventually disappear.

[Longdogs]

@Mups

They are just catering for the younger generation IMO, and those with jobs that pay well.
Us old fogeys on penions won’t be able to afford these things so easily.

Just another thing I’ve thought of - what would it cost to have a charging point put in at home, and can any electrician to it?
Where’s that Judd gone when we need him?

I think I read somewhere that you can get a Government grant for £350 which is about half the cost. :shock: I’m not sure if that includes the cost of redecorating when your house is pulled to bits running the cables from the back of the house whether under the floorboards or hanging from the ceiling and painted white to blend in. :-p

Then there’s the 300yrd extension cable if like me, your car is in a car park. :shock:

Of course, it won’t really matter to us lot when the Ricin hidden in the covid vaccine wipes us out to make way for the wokey cokeys.

[Mups]

@Longdogs

I think I read somewhere that you can get a Government grant for £350 which is about half the cost. :shock: I’m not sure if that includes the cost of redecorating when your house is pulled to bits running the cables from the back of the house whether under the floorboards or hanging from the ceiling and painted white to blend in. :-p

Then there’s the 300yrd extension cable if like me, your car is in a car park. :shock:

Of course, it won’t really matter to us lot when the Ricin hidden in the covid vaccine wipes us out to make way for the wokey cokeys.

You’re a cheerful chappie today, Dongle.

[Longdogs]

@Mups

They will adapt quicker than our generation though Foxy, and the youngest will grow up not knowing any different.

That’s true. It’s like how they used to use steam vehicles (although I’m sure you remember those).

[Mups]

@Longdogs

That’s true. It’s like how they used to use steam vehicles (although I’m sure you remember those).

Cheeky blighter.

I do remember trolley buses though.

[Judd]

@Mups

They are just catering for the younger generation IMO, and those with jobs that pay well.
Us old fogeys on penions won’t be able to afford these things so easily.

Just another thing I’ve thought of - what would it cost to have a charging point put in at home, and can any electrician to it?
Where’s that Judd gone when we need him?

I is here.

There are courses for electricians to go on how to install EV charging points in homes - these homes typically have private drives and garages to install the equipment. If you have to park on the road, you’re knackered. (Sparky’s technical term).

[Mups]

@Judd

I is here.

There are courses for electricians to go on how to install EV charging points in homes - these homes typically have private drives and garages to install the equipment. If you have to park on the road, you’re knackered. (Sparky’s technical term).

Thanks Judsy.

[Longdogs]

@Mups

You’re a cheerful chappie today, Dongle.

I really do feel that we are being ‘wiped out’ Mups but i suppose that’s another thread.