Do people who are always banging on about respect and moaning about others know they are extremely boring. They should focus more on their own shortcomings…
Going back to the original thread question
“Do people who smoke cigarettes know they stink of those cigarettes?”
No, I don’t think they will be as strongly conscious of the smell as people who are non-smokers and people who are used to living with the smell of tobacco.
My opinion is drawn from experience, observation and Scientific discovery.
When I used to smoke, it was usually outdoors. I remember being aware of the horrid smell of stale tobacco smoke if people smoked indoors and the smell of a used ashtray was disgusting.
However, when I used to smoke outside, well away from other people, I didn’t realise how much the smell of tobacco was clinging to my clothes and hair.
I work as a Volunteer in a hospital - it is a “smoke-free” environment - but sometimes patients go outside the building to smoke a cigarette - you can always tell when someone has been outside for a cigarette because the smell of the tobacco smoke surrounds them as they walk along the corridor and return to the ward.
I think how often they smoke and whether they usually smoke outdoors or indoors will play a part in how much they notice the smell of tobacco smoke.
Due to a biological process called neural adaptation - or sensory adaptation - humans tend to react less strongly to sensory inputs which they experience frequently.
Not noticing an odour that is part of your usual environment happens because olfactory neurons utilise a feedback system, which distinguishes between unfamiliar odours, which you are alerted to and may respond to, and very familiar odours which no longer require conscious recognition.
When it comes to unpleasant odours, my “ bête noire” is “doggy odours”
I have never shared my home with a dog but some of my family and friends have dogs - whenever I go into their homes or get into their cars, I am immediately aware of the “doggy odour” but they do not seem to notice it.
I guess if I had a dog myself, I would get used to the scent of it too.
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I put my hand up to being infected by a symptom-free friend who didn’t even realise she had Covid until I became very ill. There’s lots of research on when the virus starts shedding pre-symptoms.
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In over forty years of running I only came across one bloke who smoked Annie.
It was during a 26 mile rough terrain fell run. There were over five hundred competitors but not all of them turned up to run the event, some were just fast walkers. I came fourth and took a seat in the presentation tent. I lit up a cigarette and announced to the panel of judges that I may not have won the event but I might have been the first smoker home, when I felt a tap on my shoulder from the bloke sitting behind me, with a short half smoked roll up and squinty eyes he said…“No! I came second”…
Apparently you think you are, you refute scientific fact, and all because you cannot respect others rights as you would have yours respected. My points are based on scientific facts, yours are based on "Old Grey Fox " theory.
You are hilarious, in your original post your gripe was people avoiding people who refused and smokers, my point was / is, it is their right as it is yours to smoke and not be vaccinated, and backed it up with scientific research, this mere statement has sent you into a frenzy.
It is true of the common cold and flu too.
For all we know you are an elite athlete and the others were not.
Why did you stop smoking?
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Because I had a heart attack Annie…
Here’s one for you from the book of ‘Foxy’s none Scientific Facts’ Senile…
You claim that you will be affected by taking in a lungful of smoky air from someone having a quick fag (sorry Fags are not cigarettes in the USA are they) Smoke… in a shop doorway while you pass in the street…
My Mum worked as a bus conductor for 40 years in smoke filled busses and never smoked a cig in her life. In those days the first thing that people did when settling down on a seat would be to light up a cigarette. She died at the age of 85 of a none smoke related illness.
The whole nation were frightened to death about the death from lung cancer of Roy Castle back in 1994 and it was blamed on Roy working in smoky clubs all of his short life even though he didn’t smoke himself.
You could probably find a handful of people who also died of lung cancer who never smoked, but without finding out how many worked in smoky clubs and haven’t since died of lung cancer, the figures are meaningless. It was hyped up by the NHS in an attempt to prevent so many smoking related cases taking up hospital beds. Despite the massive drop in smoking the number of cancer patients continues to rise exponentially. It is now believed that cancer is more likely hereditary. Do you know what Roy’s father died of?
The science facts people read today are influenced by many thinks, mainly the establishment and the fashion and mood of the time. It’s not that the available facts are not correct, but they usually only half the story.
I don’t claim to know anything, so I don’t shout my mouth off and I admit that my theories and beliefs are my own gained from a lifetime of experience and observation.
Foxy, lets have an analogy, Footballers are heading balls and all sorts of bad stuff is happening, what about the thousands of Boxers, amateur pro famous who are thumping the hell out of each others heads, night after night, what problems have they got?
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So what are you sayin’ Spitty…?
If you are a football playing boxer that likes a smoke, your life expectancy is short…
of course there is some genetic or heriditary factor in some cancers - I dont think anyone is disputing that.
However there are certainly environmental factors too and smoking is top of the list of them.
The deniers always bring out a story of ‘My uncle smoked a packet a day and lived to 100’ as if that somehow over rides all the other people who died young from smoking related diseases
Makes sense to me to control the things you can - like smoking, including passive smoking - and greatly reduce your risk of cancers, heart disease etc
Also makes sense to me that adults can make their own choices - but they cannot impose them on other people - hence laws about smoking in public, near children etc
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Folks are smoking less so lets assume there are less passive recipients, sometimes logic gets lost in debate.
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I’m not a denier July, I was making the point that science can’t always be relied upon for the full story. People cherry pick the bits they want to substantiate their argument.
spitfire, not sure why you quoted me to say that - yes I agree - there would be less passive smoking reciprients now - partly because less people smoke and partly because of laws restricting smoking in vicinity of others.
yes indeed.
That was my point really - deniers cherry picking the 1% person who smoked and lived to 100 (or variation on that claim) and ignoring the rest of the story ie the other 99% who died younger of smoking related illnesses
and on the flip side the larger number of people who lived to 100 who did not smoke a packet a day
The ones who died are always the focus, what about the ones who lived a long life of hell, gasping for breath?
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well I guess they usually also die younger - and have less quality of life whilst getting there.
OGF with all due respect if smoking didn’t cause your heart issues, why would a heart attack stop you indulging?