Decided to stay put (rather than move)

[myrtle]

@cranberry

If that were me, I wouldn’t mind receiving the letters, after all, their properties may be affected by their own trees and if it’s found they knew of the risk and did nothing, what then? Also, they may find it difficult to insure their properties, too.
Insurance companies will do everything they can to get out of paying on claims, as you well know!!

I don’t like to see trees cut down needlessly but there are times when it’s unavoidable.

I agree

[Mups]

@cranberry

If that were me, I wouldn’t mind receiving the letters, after all, their properties may be affected by their own trees and if it’s found they knew of the risk and did nothing, what then? Also, they may find it difficult to insure their properties, too.
Insurance companies will do everything they can to get out of paying on claims, as you well know!!

I don’t like to see trees cut down needlessly but there are times when it’s unavoidable.

Same here, cranberry, I love them too, but not when the roots have gone under my kitchen floor. I go off 'em a bit then.

[cranberry]

@Mups

Same here, cranberry, I love them too, but not when the roots have gone under my kitchen floor. I go off 'em a bit then.

Yes, I’m not surprised !

[Mups]

Please can anyone explain in REALLY SIMPLE, IDIOT- PROOF language, what the following means:

“Moisture content comparison with plastic limit is a reliable indicator of desiccation, whilst moisture depletion at the depths identified are beyond that to which ambient soil drying can be influential and thereby indicate a vegetative influence in the movement/damage.”

And another bit talks about “severe desiccation in accordance with BRE digest 412 from 400 mm to 1400 mm below ground level.”

Lastly, this bit - " Attenberg testing for soils recovered in TP/BH3 showed the soil moisture content to be below plastic limit at 900 mm ground level."

1. What is ‘severe desiccation’?

2. What is BRE Digest?

3. What does ‘plastic’ limit’ mean?

If anyone can explain this simply, before you post, please revise your answer to make it even simpler than simple.
Thankyou. http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/emb/t1801.gif

[myrtle]

Errrrrm !!! … sorry !!!

[Mups]

@myrtle

Errrrrm !!! … sorry !!!

Oh no Myrtle, and I was sure you’d know as well.

[Mags]

I’m afraid it’s a Pass from me too, Mups … sorry, I hope someone will be able to give you an explanation

[myrtle]

Mups …so sorry !!! BUT … if there’s anything you want to know about dancing I’m the one to ask :shock:

[Mups]

Well, it looks like it’s just us 3 M’s - Mups, Myrtle & Mags here, but seeing as none of us know, looks like I shall have to grow old never knowing, forever wondering and scratching my head, totally lost and bewildered, and all alone in the horrid world of surveying and legal stuff. http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/sad/m1520.gif

[Patsy]

Sorry Mups - no idea x

[Mags]

Just found this when googling “What is BRE Digest?” Mups …
Not sure if it’s any help to you

Assessing cracks in houses | BRE Group

" What does ‘plastic’ limit’ mean?"

Atterberg Limits Soil Classification - Liquid Limit, Plastic Limit, Shrinkage

I’m wondering if the “severe desiccation” could have anything to do with the tree roots taking moisture from the ground?

[Mups]

You are a darling Mags. I’ll have a look.
See, it takes a woman to sort things out. Thankyou.

[Mags]

@Mups

You are a darling Mags. I’ll have a look.
See, it takes a woman to sort things out. Thankyou.

I’m not saying I understood any of it though, Mups:mrgreen:

[Mups]

Just had a look Mags, and I’m going to print some of that, then I can keep it with all the reports and refer to it.
I’ve had enough of these men trying to blind me with science, so I need to try and understand a bit more.

[myrtle]

Hi Mups … I’ve asked a (dancing) friend if he can decipher the gobbledygook as he’s a retired civil engineer (or whatever ) and I’m waiting for him to email me the translation

I’m sure that this afternoon when I was talking to him he said almost what Mags has said about severe desiccation but I stopped him in his tracks and asked him to put it in writing in plain English please … anyway we needed to get back on the dance floor !!! :shock:

Fingers crossed he gets back to me

[Mups]

@myrtle

Hi Mups … I’ve asked a (dancing) friend if he can decipher the gobbledygook as he’s a retired civil engineer (or whatever ) and I’m waiting for him to email me the translation

I’m sure that this afternoon when I was talking to him he said almost what Mags has said about severe desiccation but I stopped him in his tracks and asked him to put it in writing in plain English please … anyway we needed to get back on the dance floor !!! :shock:

Fingers crossed he gets back to me

You’re a darling too, Myrtle. Thankyou.

[Nom]

2 this may help or further confuse.
https://www.bre.co.uk/page.jsp?id=3356

3 this as above

[URL=“http://www.engineeringcivil.com/determine-the-plastic-limit- of-soil.html”]http://www.engineeringcivil.com/determine-the-plastic-limit-of-soil.html

As for 1 well its all jargon for me, need to get the one who sent the report to explain explain language but reading between the lines either your soil has dried out and has is responsible for the cracks.

Im probably wrong, feel free to give me your usual tongue lashing if it helps

[Mups]

@Nom

2 this may help or further confuse.
https://www.bre.co.uk/page.jsp?id=3356

3 this as above

[URL=“http://www.engineeringcivil.com/determine-the-plastic-limit-
of-soil.html”]Determine The Plastic Limit Of Soil - Civil Engineering Portal

As for 1 well its all jargon for me, need to get the one who sent the report to explain explain language but reading between the lines either your soil has dried out and has is responsible for the cracks.

Im probably wrong, feel free to give me your usual tongue lashing if it helps

Aw Nom, how could you ever even think such a thing, shame on you. I hope I have never been mean to you.

Thankyou for trying to help, and you are a darling too.

[myrtle]

Well my (dancing) friend has replied as follows …

Hi Margaret,

Hope the following helps:-

“Desiccation” means drying out or reduction in soil moisture content and in clay soils this can result in shrinkage of the soil and subsidence of the ground.

“BRE digest” is a publication by the Building Reserch Establisment which
issues technical information on all sorts of building and structural
problems and digest 412 is about soil water contents, subsidence, ground heave etc. and how to measure it.

“Plastic limit” is the percentage of water at which a clay soil begins to
crumble and is the lower limit of the plastic stage of the soil - in other
words the clay becomes solid and not squashy.

John.

[Mups]

That is brilliant Myrtle, thankyou very much.
I am going to print all this off so I can keep it with the report.