With an ageing population pollies are competing to cut migration, probably exactly the wrong thing to do at a time when deaths are likely to exceed births for the first time. How stupid!
Japan, Italy and South Korea have already passed the point where their populations are no longer growing thanks to ‘natural increase’, and from the 2060s onwards Australia will join them, meaning the population will shrink without ongoing migration.
Yes, we’ve know about this phenomenon for some time now.
I first read about Italy’s birthrate some years ago, the article said that in 100 years time Italy’s population will be one fifth of what it is now.
Didn’t believe it, so I made up a spreadsheet assuming a generation is 30 years and bugger me it was roughly right.
More recently the population of Japan is declining and without migration Australia is heading the same way.
In about 50 to 70 years it is calculated that the population of the planet will start to decrease as the birthrate falls below replacement rate in Africa etc. (I think “replacement rate” is 2.1 children per female)
Perhaps it’s because of this :
But isn’t that a good thing?
We are gobbling up the earths resources at a massive rate as everyone wants all that technology has to offer and it all needs power and water to work.
Copper is becoming a rare metal as modern vehicles, wind turbines and data storage devices need tons of the stuff, not to mention the fact that just about everything that moves or is viewed needs a mountain of lithium…
Have we been deliberately shifted from family life and producing kids by tempting us with ‘must have things’ and cheap holidays. Removing the stigma of homosexuallity in public and encouraging same sex marriage does’t help either.
Isn’t It. Queer. !!
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I’m happier not knowing.
If it wasn’t for ‘migration’ our NHS would have fallen on its backside years ago!
However i don’t think this ball of rock will run out of people any time soon, but we may have to distribute bodies around the globe to even thing up a bit. 
Not a bad thing at all - human population EXPLODED after abrahamic religions took hold, devastating our planet like a cancer. We need a reset, and to rid ourselves of religions and govts that just want people to keep breeding and pumping out soldiers and slaves.
We weren’t supposed to live like this - everyone should read Civilized to Death by Christopher Ryan it’s a great eye-opener 
And why do you think that is Anise?
Could it have something to do with the fact that the medical profession has been made unattractive to our young people. So all the people joining the NHS from other countries were either trained somewhere else, or are prepared to accept poor wages.
The demise of the NHS has not been saved at all…It’s dying a slow death and been replaced with private healthcare…We have the potential to fill the NHS with our own people, so why don’t we?
Not sure how the NHS has been made ‘unattractive to our young people’. Unless you mean low wages and poor working conditions, which seems to be the case.
I don’t see the NHS being replaced by private healthcare, more a question of both working alongside each another - surely there’s room for both to work equally well?
I have no problem with people from overseas working in our NHS.
I have regular treatment at a very busy university hospital 30 miles from where i live, which has a mix of ‘our own’ (as you put it), and many not ‘our own’.
They are all amazing.
Because. BMA. CBS & HCSA. At Loggerheads with the Grey Suit Administration.
Influence to follow the Profession. With the likes of BUPA.
Insynce. With Dentists and Veterinarians
Nothing new there. Quality, well-experienced disciplinary teachers. With no alternative options.
Simply left the Profession in their droves 25+ yrs ago.
Yep, that’s more or less it Anise together with other issues like the private sector much more attractive and better paid than the NHS. In my experience (and plenty of it over the last 25 years) the private sector is mainly staffed by ‘Our Own people’ .
I don’t have issues with ‘not our own’ as long as they can speak good English and are experienced and knowledgeable in their field.
I am not sure what migration has to do with it, migration doesn’t increase the world’s population it just moves existing people to different places.
That’s sounds logical to me too … and the stressed planet could do with losing a couple of billion humans except a recovery by Mother Nature would take too long now and really needs us all extinct. Gone. We’re a blight. Parasites.
Just think … a global ageing population and AI waiting in the wings.
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“And really needs us all Extinct.
Gone”.
“We’re a blight. Parasites”.
IF Over 75yo
The NHS. won’t be happy, chappies.
Seeing That Mantra “Paraphrased”.
That is a very depressing point of view @Morticia, I prefer to think that the entire human population of the planet would fit as a loose crowd in North Yorkshire (1sq m p/p). we are far outnumbered by sheep, cows and insects.
As I said, the human population as a whole will start to decline in about 50 to 70 years anyway, so problem solved. We just won’t be around to see it.
Chin up, soldier on…
The art of “bonking” is lost
Is it best to be going out of coming in 
Or shaking it all about 
