Customer Service - The Modern "Little Helpers"

Fine piece, in the DT today, (Comment, Jan Etherington) about the renponses you get when you ring in to get some Customer Service, for the device you bought, or to get some Medical Help, or almost anything!

Here’s a snatch from quite a long article:-

"If you do manage to discover the deliberately elusive and paradoxically labelled “Contact Us” telephone number, you might naively imagine that “us” means living, breathing humans, buffing up their “Here to help” badges and keen to rush to your aid with practical and knowledgeable solutions. Perhaps a “normal” conversation, with a sense of humour, a dash of empathy – “Oh, poor you!” “I can see that must be annoying.” “The same thing happened to me.”

Hopes are dashed as you get through to Bot’s phone line cousin, either asking you to “state your problem” (which they never understand properly) or offering an endless list of choices, none of which fit your needs and should really include “Press nine if you’ve lost the will to live”.

Convince Bot’s cousin to let you speak to a human and off you go again. “Your call is important to us” drones a disinterested and disembodied actor’s voice as Enya’s Orinoco bloody Flow pipes down the line. “You are currently second in the queue,” they tell you. Funny that I’m always second or third but whoever’s number one has been on the line since the previous Thursday. Why don’t they ever say “You’re 24th in the queue. Make a sandwich. Have a bath …”? It’s enough to make you smash the phone in frustration, until you remember you’ll have to talk to another Bot to get a replacement.

After a few hours, anaesthetised by Enya, the phone stuck to my cheek, a voice suddenly says, “Hello…” By then, I’ve almost forgotten why I called. But at last – a human, a problem-solver! Except it isn’t. They have a check list. “Have you switched it on?” it begins. Obviously, you really can’t lose your temper with them, because it’s not their fault. This is “company procedure”. So passing a law to make it compulsory for real humans to talk to customers means nothing if companies continue training their staff to speak and respond like the very robots we all hate.

Now and then, though, we do experience real “customer service”. A sympathetic voice answers and sorts things out. When that happens, I’m tearful with surprise and gratitude. If Senor Garzón can make that the norm in Spain, I’ll be on the next flight."

As I said, the article is much longer but you might see the drift…!

I’m quite relieved to see this discussion coming up, in Print, as I’m often fobbed off by my younger family, who see it as all my fault as I expect too much, or that I don’t ask the right questions!

Where will it all end?

:scream:

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This is such a familiar experience. You know what’s in front of you from the moment you decide you need to contact some organisation or other. Like the article says, though, just once in a very rare while, you do get to speak to a human being who is capable of actually helping, and if you are very, very lucky, it will be someone who isn’t speaking from the other side of the World.

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We might notice that we, usually, get these responses from suppliers where “we can’t go anywhere else!”

After all, if you ring in to get help, on a product you bought, you’re not going to get help from a different shop!

Or, if you are ringing your Doctor’s surgery (God Forbid!) you can’t just hang up and call a different surgery!

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Oh I think I want to go out and buy a copy of the DT just to read the rest of this article. Why oh why can’t people like the writer of this article man the phones at call centres? Oh wait, maybe they prefer earning five times the hourly rate these mindless happy-to-help-you bunch get.

I would love to meet the idiot who was responsible for developing the automated call answering system. I hope he/she suffers as much as - no, more than - we all do with these bloody things.

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But if you bought it from a national company with lots of branches, you probably won’t be able to ring them directly anyway. You are far more likely to get through to a call centre in India. :100: :021:

One of the biggest problems is that most of the places we buy things now aren’t shops at all. And all those shops that used to be major players on the high street - Debenhams, BHS, Woollies and so many more, are no longer in existence, or they only have an online presence. Time was when we bought something and it went wrong, we could take it back to the shop/store and actually talk face to face with a real flesh and blood person. Crikey years ago, we could even go into a BT shop!

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I’ve found the easy to speak to a person at my gas & leccie supplier’s HQ. Punch in a string of zeros when the bot asks for my account number and hey presto I’m connected to a real person as my details cannot be found :wink::point_right::grin::+1:

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If you ignore all the options eventually they put you through to someone who is living and breathing.

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So you turn the tables on them, LD: You prevent them from making themselves unable to be found, by jumping in first and making yourself unable to be found. :+1: :slightly_smiling_face:

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You have to beat them at their own game or fall by the wayside with the rest of the peasants :wink::ok_hand:

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But just because their lungs are functioning is no guarantee that their brain will be.

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Well this is true but you can always go through the same process and get referred to another non bot. I did this recently with Virgin and had to go through to another department before finding someone clued up who transferred me to another clued up person. I had to cut off the call to the original non bot customer service chap who was taking ages (27mins) to get absolutely nowhere.

The non bot original person and their team tried to call me back five times and left voicemails well after my request was already done and dusted. Whoever says that private companies are more organised and efficient?

It just depends what you mean by efficient. The Inland Revenue are the most efficient organisation I’ve come across for making themselves incommunicado.

I did quite well at getting through to HMRC recently by using my wait until all options exhausted method. The people who helped were very knowledgeable. I just tried different strategies in going through to the wrong department as easier to get transferred internally (the wrong department probably very happy to pass the work on!)

Listening to you and LD, it seems the only way to get anywhere is by not playing by the rules. Or possibly by making up your own rules. :slightly_smiling_face:

It’s us against them Harbal! This is war :guardsman:t3: :guardswoman:t3:

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I have tried that, I just got cut off & had to start all over again. That was the surgery too, wanting my date of birth, it don’t work there.So I go to the surgery & speak outside the door to a receptionist, after waiting for her to acknowledge me, waiting at the door, finger on the buzzer. :grinning:
I now just hope I don’t have to ring anyone with an automated call thingy.
At least with our pharmacy you do actually get the person working there answer the phone. Probably the only places you can get a human.
Seems to be all over the country this, now. I hate it. :rage:

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I just did a survey, of the whole of the UK, and the only two, who are following the rules, are YOU and ME!

(and I’m not too sure about YOU!)

:innocent:

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Well I don’t know about you, Ted, but from now on it’s no more Mr. Nice Guy as far as I’m concerned. The next time I need some customer service, butts are gonna get kicked. :sunglasses:

In France you have to make your own appointments for any Medical Issues…
So in this case Husband has to have a rear examination.
For this he has seen the Surgeon. Lovely Lady and as his normal self tells jokes…so of course they are now bosom buddies…Next stage he was to have an anaesthetist, so there we have to phone up for that and arrange the appointment.once we get the approval paperwork through and of course you can’t drive so that ambulance they will not let you…so once again when the paperwork permission comes through…taxi service has to be booked at the right time allowing for the 1 hour journey to the Hospital. They sort out the return journey via the paperwork the Hospital sends us…

Are you following this so far…

Of course he has have a Covid19 test 48 hours before the examination plus blood tests to show your alive maybe!.. They book you a room with all you need for a half day…

Phew…

So I make the phone call this particular day as have all the paperwork but this ti
me…to book the Anaesthetist for a check over to see your fit enough basically.
Now this is were I was hitting a brick wall…I spoke in very basic French. Rendez vous is appointment so that was clear what I was phoning about…But oh no my accent tells her I am not French…She slams the Phone down…This is at the Poitier’s Universal Hospital with a direct phone number…
Not giving up that easily as I presumed a wrong dial up.
Tried and tried and she would not speak with me…
This has never occurred before and hope it never does again.
I went to my Doctors Surgery the next day and the Secretary phoned on my behalf…Simple, got the appointment and realised that woman has a serious problem…fancy employing somebody with that nature…
When he booked in for the check over with the Anaesthetist he never mention her or anything but the jokes he told the ‘A’
but when I said what about the receptionist…he said she was terrible, she was snapping at some poor man in front of me…That’ll be her then…what a witch…Still can’t think how she keeps her job though…

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