Covid-19 Vaccinations

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I did, not Covid Positive when I went in, but was a couple of days later.

Not an experience I want to repeat, it was not nice.

You can get Covid more than once and my view is that it is better to have the vaccine than hope I don’t.

It was the Covid which affected my lungs, not my heart condition.

It is just personal choice.

I agree Swim, it is a ‘Personal Choice’…:wink:

Andrew Lloyd Webber has said selfish people who refuse to have Covid jab are as bad as drink-drivers adding that they were affecting an enormous number of people’s jobs and livelihoods.

He will not be opening shows in his venues until all measures are scrapped, as it was too costly to play to reduced audiences.

His analogy skewed.

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Some more news on vaccines.

Coronavirus: Ministers to step up vaccine take-up calls amid variant fears

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57152901

It all seems a bit too pushy to me…:017:
When you consider that the biggest percentage of people won’t even get a sniffle if they test positive for covid.
We seem to be bombarded every day with all the reasons why we should have the jab. It all seems a bit desperate to me…

See what I mean Swim…:cool:

Psychological operations (PSYOP) are operations to convey selected information and indicators to audiences to influence their emotions, motives, and objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of governments, organizations, groups, and individuals.

Know what you’re saying Foxy, but Dreamworld lost its appeal.

Deleted as not relevant to this thread and l hadn’t seen that Cinderella had previously mentioned it.

Morning Arty, I don’t want to corrupt Mags thread anymore than I have already…:blush: Sorry Mags…:frowning:

So I will answer your question in a new thread I have just started called ‘Conformity and Andrew Lloyd Webber’…x

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The problem is OGF the amount of stupidity on the Internet about Covid.

It annoys me as a scientist, 5G cannot possibly affect a virus.

I totally agree with you Swim, but can we discount everything we read on social media for the odd stupid conspiracy theory?
And has that theory been planted there on purpose so as to rubbish everything else? With all due respect Swim, It appears to have worked on you…

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Nope, I just have come to a different decision to you.

It is as simple as that.

There is no absolute certainty that I am right, it is just that I think differently to you.

You think differently to me because your circumstances are different to mine Swimmy, and you are suggesting that I lose the right to make my decision based on my circumstances.

Ref Covid, I have found a great deal of twisted facts on social media OGF. Things people have sent to me and I’ve checked out. This ranges from videos in one language (from experts) dubbed into another using subtitles which are completely fake, to official research text which has been doctored in part to give a completely different message. It has been an eye opener.

I prefer to read scientific research papers. In Jan 2020 I read a really good one about the effects of covid, what it does to the cells of the body - a paper that really scared me. I started to tell my colleagues at work how serious it was. Some scoffed. A few months later one colleague was reminiscing about that conversationm, we had a laugh about it because the whole world was locking down.

So OGF if you want to check out the real facts look at the science. Much of it is published online, even if only abstracts. Only bear in mind scientific research is a bit like religion. You have to read a lot of papers and then make up your own mind based on the sample size and peer reviews.

OGF you should do whatever you are comfortable doing. It’s your body your choice.

Thanks Annie, but I must point out that my decision not have the vaccine was no way influenced by anything I read on social media or the main stream media. I looked at my personal circumstances and decided I will not have the jab at this stage. Of course my decision may change if my circumstances change, but that will be very unlikely until the vaccines have finished their experimental period in 2023.
I have also noticed (especially on twitter) the amount of manipulation of documents and graphics that lead me not to take anything as proof on there without other backup info…

I believe that I will not catch the virus Annie, but in the unlikely event that I do, I also believe that my body is up for the fight…Of course, if I’m wrong you won’t be able to say “I told you so”…:wink:

My son made me promise to have the vaccine. They have just had a baby which they have been trying for for about 5years. They didn`t want me to die of covid and not be there to help them out. How selfish lol. So I had it, I had concerns but I had it. 3 days of flu like symptoms both times for me and hubby. We will see.

Ok so I had my second AZ jab this morning. Managed to go shopping and do some gardening, put the washing on, repark the car, then boom walking down the road in the sun to the car I felt like I was on drugs. Now propped up with pillows in bed with the tower fan on oscillate and have had some soup (which helped) and paracetamol. Just waiting for it to get worse.

The reaction was faster than last time. Just over three hours.

Oh dear Annie, I hope things improve soon.

I admire you though, still accepting your second jab after suffering badly with your first.