I agree with summer’s husband.
I have always said we’ll be in lockdown after Christmas.
@Dextrous
That is not so Dex, firstly we will not know for some time how Omicron will behave so need to take ‘insurance’ measures also Delta will remain active for some time even if a ‘mild’ Omicron does eventually become the dominant strain.
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It would be a real pity @Meg if by limiting the spread of Omicron (which might have been the way out of the pandemic), another mutation subsequently takes place which might not be as damaging if we had let Omicron run riot.
Damned if we do, damned if we don’t eh?
At some stage we’re going to have to bite the bullet, take the risk and go for the best guess available.
We’re approaching 2 years of this now. How long can we realistically continue?
We are between a rock and a hard place Dex, if covid doesn’t get you the vaccine will…
How many more deaths are we going to witness before we realise what’s going on…
Consider how many people have perished with covid…
Consider how many people have perished from vaccine side effects (and it’s only just started)
Consider how many people have perished because they couldn’t have the treatment that they desperately needed.
Consider how many people have perished from suicide (the figures have doubled) from the incessant drip drip drip of depressing news from the MSM about covid and climate change.
Consider how many people are now living rough or in poverty through strict lockdown measures that closed many businesses (Amazon will move into the void I’m sure)
It might have been better to let covid run it’s course, many have suffered and survived.
There is something frightening going on in the world today and it’s going according to someones plan.
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Happened to see that blood clot article a few minutes be for you posted it @OldGreyFox , but thanks anyway.
Am pretty sure that at the start of things, the powers that be were acting with a degree of best intentions (although they do have to weigh up the pros and cons and potentially make unpalatable decisions based on the greater long term good, even if it permits collateral losses).
Somewhere on here there is the usual debate which involves citing data and/or differing opinions from different sources/experts. These are self defeating in that all it shows is that if one cherry picks carefully, one can reinforce their own position or attack someone else’s. We’ve all been guilty of this at times.
I have two concerns/queries:
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At what stage are we just going to bite the bullet and accept que sera sera? This is particularly down to the fact that the actual mortality rate does seem to be particularly low, and the recovery rate is high.
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How will our experiences with this pandemic negatively impact the public response in the event of a proper and monstrous virus? Are we crying wolf now?
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This is a factual report from BHF about the side effects from the AstraZeneca vaccine.
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Good post Dex, and thank you scott also.
I totally agree with you Dex, if you look long enough there will be facts to benefit both sides of any discussion and I think the MSM and the establishment contradict themselves often so it becomes a minefield what to think when even they don’t know what the outcome will be.
I don’t want to lose friends over the issue, and time constraints prevent me from posting further, there are lots of interesting things to immerse myself in and batting and bowling over the covid issue is becoming very tedious. Now where did I put those jigsaw puzzles?
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I’ve come to exactly the same conclusion myself Foxy …
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The number of Omicron Covid cases in Scotland has risen to 29 on Thursday - up from 13 the day before. A concert by the pop band Steps at Glasgow’s Hydro venue on 22 November has been linked to six of the cases.
First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has said cases can be expected to rise “perhaps significantly” over coming days. The new virus variant has also been recorded at NHS Highland, NHS Grampian and NHS Forth Valley health boards for the first time.
Ms Sturgeon said: “The number of Omicron cases now being reported in Scotland is rising, and cases are no longer all linked to a single event, but to several different sources including a Steps concert at the Hydro. This confirms our view that there is now community transmission of this variant within Scotland.”
The Scottish government said the risk to those who attended the Steps concert on 22 November is low and those who may have come into contact with Omicron are being contacted by test and protect teams. The band also played the same venue on 23 November but no cases have been identified from this night of the concert.
On Monday, Steps postponed the remainder of their UK tour due to positive Covid cases in their touring party. The move comes just days after it was revealed singer Lee Latchford-Evans tested positive for coronavirus.
Bad news for Scotland … 
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sings :
I’ll take the high road, and you take the low road,
and we’ll be in lockdown afore ye
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One new case was confirmed on Saturday as First Minister Nicola Sturgeon received her Covid booster vaccination.
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Nobody has died from Omicron, the WHO has confirmed this today.
Well that’s good news…although I would still be wary about it, because its new and has different specs to the “usual” variations. Having said that, nobody (yet) has said that its worse than a heavy cold. So I’m keeping my fingers crossed that this cycle might be the beginning of the end of the whole dammed thing?
Each Variant is getting less severe in terms of mortality.
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That’s very reassuring, Doctor Bread. 
Sunday Hearld today.
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I saw a surgeon on Sky news saying exactly the same, maybe it was the same chap, he was so frustrated and angry…makes me think there should be specialist Covid hospitals like there used to be specialist TB hospitals, freeing up normal hospitals to do the usual things.
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The Nightingale Hospitals! That was the point of building them in the first place! Maybe they don’t have the staff for them anymore though?
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Yes I believe that’s the case, a chronic shortage of staff 
My colleague is ill right now with Covid and he only had it a few weeks ago! 2nd dose and he is very poorly again