Did he surpass the danger zone? 
Not a case of ‘I don’t want to share my sources’ I’m not allowed to post anything off X.
And furthermore…If I did post my sources it would deflect from the topic when people just argue about theirs being correct and anybody else’s must be misinformation or a conspiracy theory.
You can’t be sure that just because it’s called an ‘official’ source it’s telling the truth. You probably are too naive to believe that the establishment would do such a thing and manipulate the stats… 
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Giving they only say what has been done, one has to figure out the rest.
15% of Republicans are fully vaccinated. (85% nope)
28% of all Americans are fully vaccinated. (72% nope)
42% of Democrats are fully vaccinated. (58% nope)
(Looked like the prediction on the election)
The method that the Democrats use were so high in the beginning was they used threats and lie against citizens.
They threatened arrest for breaking lockdowns. (Realized they did have enough jail space). Fired people for not getting vaccinated (even when there was a shortage of nurses). Kicked people out of the military that refused vaccines. (Now they can’t fill the ranks. Geniuses.)
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Robin no idea what you are arguing now - that post seems t o have no connection to what I said or to your own links
No idea where you got your stats from either - sources shows much higher rates of vaccination in US than your are claiming
from this link:Share of older adults fully or partially vaccinated against COVID-19 U.S. 2023 | Statista As of April 26, 2023, the percentage of adults 65 years and older who were fully vaccinated against COVID-19 had reached 94 percent.
Well yes I am naive enough t o want actual facts from credible sources - and no I dont think you undisclosed sources are somehow correct or the ‘establishment’ is doing some big cover u p thing that you are somehow unable to show
On the one hand you tell me not to get paranoid - and then you put words in my mouth. When did I make that claim. Its interesting that you resort to mad exaggeration when all I pointed out was that things were pretty grim back in early 2020. All the evidence and science was clear, without a vaccine it was necessary to reduce direct contact, especially crowds or crowded places. It really is that simple.
Yes…possible
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Take a closer look at your link, it even states 16.8% of the population is fully vaccinated. And your is even lower then the information that I found.
It’s not arguing when stating facts. It may be upsetting but facts are facts.
Narrow it down to a specific group will make stats look better. One could say, everyone over 115 is 100% vaccinated or the same could be said to be 100% unvaccinated. Presenting facts like this is how the professionals were reporting information during the the supposed pandemic.
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One just has the look at, how many people died from COVID that didn’t have a terminal illness. The odds of the terminally ill were on there way out anyway. The way the US was dealing with it is and was a different health system then any other country. If the word “COVID” was used, the government was picking up the medical tab. From just a negative test was the lowest paid and it price paid went up from there.
Yes it says 42% of over 65s have had the latest booster and 16,5% of younger people.
Not 16.5 % of total population
But about 90% of total population have had at least 1 dose.
Still not sure what point you are trying to make from that.
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Figures for the UK.
92.9% of UK population 12+ have received one vaccine dose
86.8% of UK population 12+ have received two vaccine doses
69% of UK population 12+ have received three vaccine doses[1]
Check your information again gray is %of total population.
Changing words around again.
See where the problem is. It’s at the bottom of the chart
Why all the debate about vaccinated people (once, twice, or thrice) getting Covid. There are two significant facts that make being vaccinated or not by 2024 mostly irrelevant. First, vaccines are shown to be only effective for a few months - maybe 6-9 months. My last jab, of three, was perhaps two years ago. Second, Covid mutation into different variants - making old vaccinations much less effective. Together these two factors make all the discussion here irrelevant.
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Previous vaccinations may be less effective to combat new mutations but, going by my basic studies in a Uni course in biology, I thought that a vaccine against the original virus would give you more of a fighting chance than no vaccine at all.
The way I think of it is if vaccination has primed your immune system to recognise the original threat, it already has the basic defence system and that enables it to identify the threat and assemble the extra defences needed more quickly to defend against the specific mutated version.
I have a small but very useful screw driver in my toolkit - the basic handle is needed for all tasks - and it has a selection of different blades to fit whichever screw heads I need to tackle.
That is how I I think of vaccines - the ideal combo is having the screwdriver handle plus the correct driver head for an exact fit - but if the immune system already has the basic tool handle, it can develop the exact tool head fit to lock onto the virus more quickly - if you have not got the basic tool handle, you’re stuffed.
I absolutely agree. However its effectiveness does reduce over time. And there are multiple other variations which have an effect on the severity of any Covid case. This includes virus dose, existing health, Covid variant, etc.
My main point was that some posts seemed to be saying that the vaccine is not effective as people who have been vaccinated in the past are still getting Covid - and some seriously. That is a gross misunderstanding of the vaccine and Covid. It is also misleading as it implies that people should have been vaccinated and should not get the vaccine in the future. That is pure anti-vax rubbish.
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Well errr…Actually, the covid jab is not really a vaccination as such Boot…The old system of vaccine (which simply means cow) were dead cultures extracted from the blood of a cow and injected into a human so the body could recognise and (as you said) muster defences to defeat the virus in future…Probably Annie can describe in more detail what these new ‘vaccines’ actually do to make make the virus less effective. I believe it’s something to do with restricting your immune system so it doesn’t over react to the virus…Fluid in the lungs caused by your own bodies response to the virus…
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The word vaccine comes from the cowpox virus vaccinia which derives from the Latin word vacca for cow . The inoculation with cowpox vaccine was done to prevent humans from contracting smallpox. Smallpox was a devasting disease.
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what point are you making with this though??
Yes Linc and Boots, I agree - covid vaccines do wear off over time and new variants may not have been covered by older strains - obviously hence the recomendation for boosters ,especially for at risk groups
However old covid vaccines (and natural antibodies from previous covid disease) will give some protection against current covid.
the current thread debate as I understand it ,although really not sure, has become rather muddied - was somebody saying Covid disease occurs more in vaccinated people (therefore no point in getting vaccinated) - well yes of course since around 90% of populations are vaccinated at least once
Most covid disease does seem reducing in severity - I would think that is due to several factors: most people having at least some Covid immunity from vaccines and/or natural disease, effects of anti virals in at risk groups and different strains becoming less virulent
Was somebody saying 16.5% when the information provided by that person was 16.8%?
really not sure what point you are trying to make - how does the point you are making change if the amount is 16.5% or 16.8%???
The information is in black and white, shows the information clearly but for some reason it can’t seem to be used correctly. Not sure why the information can’t be relayed correctly.
But, what am I thinking. If the professionals can get information right, why should I expect others to get information correct.
My faults for expecting this. Normally I don’t take politicians or professionals opinions on anything and should keep everything on a level playing field.