COVID-19: Johnson says lockdown, not vaccine, is reason for drop in cases and deaths

Still not sure what point are you making?
What difference does it make to whatever you are saying whether a percentage was 16.5% or 16.8%??

The truth comes hard for some.

A lie is a lie. I don’t doubt people that don’t understand things. It’s can be hard.

How does it go? You can lead a horse to water but you can’t teach it how to drink.

Well, that doesnt answer my question so still no idea what point you are making or what truth you mean.

Never mind.

I’ll just wait and see if anyone has anything new to say.

Not for a very long time. Vaccines are now manufactured using a man made antigen and mixing it with stablisers and preservatives. One way to make the antigen is “kill” the toxic element using chemicals (so it can’t reproduce) but retaining the profile so the recipient of the vaccine still reacts against the intruding antigen.
It is true that the development of mRNA based vaccines is different - someone else might explain the process. But the result is the same - a mimicked virus to produce the same reaction in the body.
Vaccines have saved millions of lives. Then along comes some idiot anti-vaxxers and the next thing you have are outbreaks of measles or chicken pox or mumps. Most countries came close to completely removing these illnesses. Now thanks to anti-vaxxers our children get to endure, and in some cases not endure, them again. Cheers.

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It’s a good job I’m not an ‘Anti-vaxxer’ then Lincs.

Outbreak of measles in Sydney atm. Hopefully contained before it spreads further, especially not to Byron Bay, country town in NSW, north of Sydney and the anti vaccine capital of Australia - lots of people there living hippie alternative lifestyles - which i have nothing against but a high proportion also dont believe in vaccines.
An outbreak of measles in a community with low herd immunity would be disasterous

I didn’t know that. Actually I don’t care I have had Measles, Mumps, Chicken Pox etc when I was a child.

When a child got any of those diseases they would hold a party so all the local kids got it. The only one that sent fear through the neighbourhood was Polio and every child was kept indoors when there was an outbreak of that.

I had Measles and Mumps together so I was fat and spotty.

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Ive had mumps and chickenpox too, still have some scars from the CP.

I guess I am bit younger than you as i had measles vaccine.

Measles is by far the most serious, ca n cause blindness and deafness in survivors
I have read of this as a cause for Helen Keller ( although other sources suggest scarlet fever)

Your fortunate to have had the measles vaccine. I was young when I had it but remember a seriously bad fever and a horrible, spotty recovery. But my dose of mumps almost killed me. It developed into meningitis and was so serious I was isolated in hospital for two weeks. Perhaps that is one of the things that make me really dislike anti-vaxxers. Its not that I disagree with their views, its that their ignorant selfishness can cause serious harm.

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Did you not have the vaccine Lincs?

Same as for you, there was no mumps vaccine when I was ten years old.

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I didn’t know that Lincs. I just remember having lots of jabs as a child.
:syringe:

Measles vaccine came out first, I remember having that one when I was 6 yrs old.

was quite a bit later given as combination MMR (1989) - and later again came chicken pox vaccine.(2005)

this is in Australia - time line will vary slightly between countries