Coronavirus

[Bruce]

Global Cases 2,557,857
Global Deaths 177,674
Mortality Rate 7%
(Flu Mortality Rate 0.1%)

Australia
Cases 6,647
Deaths 74
Critical 49
Cases per Million 261

UK
Cases 129,044
Deaths 17,337
Critical 1,559
Cases per Million 1,901

USA
Cases 819,175
Deaths 45,343
Critical 14,016
Cases per Million 2,475

COVID Live Update: 201,166,636 Cases and 4,273,794 Deaths from the Coronavirus...

[bakerman]

It is now beginning to look like we will be fighting this damn coronavirus for years to come. I can’t even imagine what that will look like or who will be left alive.

I see no way to make any plans for the future, especially with us being essentially under “house arrest” for months (years ?).

I must admit that I am beginning to feel that I will, sooner or later, contract the coronavirus. With everything I’ve read, it sounds like a terrible way to die. If I was a youngster, I might be able to survive but certainly not at my age with underlying health issues. Damn depressing.

[JBR]

@bakerman

It is now beginning to look like we will be fighting this damn coronavirus for years to come. I can’t even imagine what that will look like or who will be left alive.

I see no way to make any plans for the future, especially with us being essentially under “house arrest” for months (years ?).

I must admit that I am beginning to feel that I will, sooner or later, contract the coronavirus. With everything I’ve read, it sounds like a terrible way to die. If I was a youngster, I might be able to survive but certainly not at my age with underlying health issues. Damn depressing.

Be positive.

There is nothing to say that all old people will die.

There are three possibilities:

• a vaccine will be developed which can overcome the virus;

• no vaccine, but people will begin to develop their own immunity to the virus and, hopefully, the virus will eventually die out naturally;

• (worst case scenario) incidences of the virus will reduce, but new strains will appear in the future.

[bakerman]

@JBR

Be positive.

There is nothing to say that all old people will die.

There are three possibilities:

• a vaccine will be developed which can overcome the virus;

• no vaccine, but people will begin to develop their own immunity to the virus and, hopefully, the virus will eventually die out naturally;

• (worst case scenario) incidences of the virus will reduce, but new strains will appear in the future.

There seems to be a 4th possibility. Everyone who can die from C-19, will die. It’s only a matter of time.

[Lindyloo]

@bakerman

There seems to be a 4th possibility. Everyone who can die from C-19, will die. It’s only a matter of time.

As it appears to mostly kill those with underlying health conditions and the elderly, it could almost be considered to be some economically engineered form of selective cleansing! :shock:

[OldGreyFox]

@JBR

Be positive.

There is nothing to say that all old people will die.

There are three possibilities:

• a vaccine will be developed which can overcome the virus;

• no vaccine, but people will begin to develop their own immunity to the virus and, hopefully, the virus will eventually die out naturally;

• (worst case scenario) incidences of the virus will reduce, but new strains will appear in the future.

That’s right JB, Covid19 is not necessarily a death sentence. There are plenty of people with underlying health issues that have survived, and in the process become stronger.

Sometimes viruses just disappear as mysteriously as they appeared; Influenza seems to fade out in the summer.

[OldGreyFox]

@Lindyloo

As it appears to mostly kill those with underlying health conditions and the elderly, it could almost be considered to be some economically engineered form of selective cleansing! :shock:

It also seems to target some ethnic minorities Lindy…

[Donkeyman]

@bakerman

There seems to be a 4th possibility. Everyone who can die from C-19, will die. It’s only a matter of time.

Everything is related to time bakerman!!

Donkeyman!

[Lindyloo]

@OldGreyFox

It also seems to target some ethnic minorities Lindy…

That’s just bizarre! What are the covid stats for countries of origin for those ethnic minorities?

[Donkeyman]

@Lindyloo

As it appears to mostly kill those with underlying health conditions and the elderly, it could almost be considered to be some economically engineered form of selective cleansing! :shock:

Just like mother nature Lindy?
Survival of the fittest!

Donkeyman!

[Lindyloo]

@Donkeyman

Just like mother nature Lindy?
Survival of the fittest!

Donkeyman!

I can’t say there’s anything natural about this virus!

[JBR]

@OldGreyFox

That’s right JB, Covid19 is not necessarily a death sentence. There are plenty of people with underlying health issues that have survived, and in the process become stronger.

Sometimes viruses just disappear as mysteriously as they appeared; Influenza seems to fade out in the summer.

Yes. The 1918-20 ‘Spanish Flu’ virus eventually disappeared and is yet to return!

Why shouldn’t the 2019-21? ‘Chinese Coronavirus’ do the same?

[OldGreyFox]

@Lindyloo

That’s just bizarre! What are the covid stats for countries of origin for those ethnic minorities?

This from the ‘New Scientist’ Lindy…

[I]During the coronavirus epidemic, people from black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) backgrounds are being hit particularly hard, according to emerging data.

The most recent figures compiled by the UK’s Intensive Care National Audit and Research Centre suggests that of nearly 5000 people critically ill with covid-19 in England, Wales and Northern Ireland whose ethnicity was known, 34 per cent were from BAME backgrounds. But people from such groups make up only 14 per cent of the population of England and Wales, for instance.

Read more: An unequal society means covid-19 is hitting ethnic minorities harder | New Scientist
[/I]

[bakerman]

@JBR

Yes. The 1918-20 ‘Spanish Flu’ virus eventually disappeared and is yet to return!

Why shouldn’t the 2019-21? ‘Chinese Coronavirus’ do the same?

Oh, it will eventually disappear. The only; question is… when ?
What I have been reading is saying that we are probably looking at years, not weeks or even months. Years.

[JBR]

@OldGreyFox

This from the ‘New Scientist’ Lindy…

[I]During the coronavirus epidemic, people from black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) backgrounds are being hit particularly hard, according to emerging data.

The most recent figures compiled by the UK’s Intensive Care National Audit and Research Centre suggests that of nearly 5000 people critically ill with covid-19 in England, Wales and Northern Ireland whose ethnicity was known, 34 per cent were from BAME backgrounds. But people from such groups make up only 14 per cent of the population of England and Wales, for instance.

Read more: An unequal society means covid-19 is hitting ethnic minorities harder | New Scientist
[/I]

I haven’t read the scientific papers, but should we consider the possibility that this bias is not related to ethnicity itself, but rather influenced by typical lifestyles of those minorities?

[JBR]

@bakerman

Oh, it will eventually disappear. The only; question is… when ?
What I have been reading is saying that we are probably looking at years, not weeks or even months. Years.

Quite possibly. Compare the 1918 Spanish Flu I mentioned earlier. That lasted for over two years. It is not unlikely that this pandemic might last for a similar length of time.

But then again, it might not.

After all, we have scientific and medical knowledge now that were not there then.

[AnnieS]

@JBR

Be positive.

There is nothing to say that all old people will die.

There are three possibilities:

• a vaccine will be developed which can overcome the virus;

• no vaccine, but people will begin to develop their own immunity to the virus and, hopefully, the virus will eventually die out naturally;

• (worst case scenario) incidences of the virus will reduce, but new strains will appear in the future.

Hopefully the virus will weaken over time. If people are reinfected then it will no longer be “novel”. Although there was a report saying that the mutation rate may have been underestimated.

[bakerman]

@JBR

Quite possibly. Compare the 1918 Spanish Flu I mentioned earlier. That lasted for over two years. It is not unlikely that this pandemic might last for a similar length of time.

But then again, it might not.

After all, we have scientific and medical knowledge now that were not there then.

True. The main problem is that viruses, once in the human body, are a real nightmare to kill.

Look at AIDS. It’s been around for aprox 38 years and science has yet to develop a vaccine. This damn coronavirus can float in the air and kill people sitting in a restaurant sitting many meters away. (At least that is what the Chinese scientists say)

[bakerman]

@AnnieS

Hopefully the virus will weaken over time. If people are reinfected then it will no longer be “novel”. Although there was a report saying that the mutation rate may have been underestimated.

Yes. I recently read a scientific report that it has mutated.

I keep wondering if those Chinese communists have deliberately set it loose on the rest of us. ?

[AnnieS]

@bakerman

Yes. I recently read a scientific report that it has mutated.

I keep wondering if those Chinese communists have deliberately set it loose on the rest of us. ?

My bets are on an environmental terrorist… all the eco warriors have suddenly gone quiet.