The UK is “now seeing a second wave” of Covid-19, Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said, adding, “It’s been inevitable we’d see it in this country.”
Mr Johnson said he did not “want to go into bigger lockdown measures” but that tighter social distancing restrictions might be necessary.
It also comes as the UK recorded another 4,322 confirmed Covid-19 cases.
Speaking in Oxfordshire, Mr Johnson said: “As we look at this particular curve and what is happening now, clearly we are going to keep everything under review. I don’t want to get into a second national lockdown at all, it is the last thing anybody wants. I don’t want to go into bigger lockdown measures at all, we want to keep schools open and it is fantastic the schools have gone back in the way they have. We want to keep the economy open as far as we possibly can, we want to keep businesses going. The only way we can do that is, obviously, if people follow the guidance.”
Well, that puts an end to speculation about a “second wave” - it’s here (official) … :!:
I guess we all knew it was going to happen. Just a matter of waiting now, to see if we get almost complete lock down again.
By, by car boots, fairs, markets, participating sport, pubs, cafes, resteraunts, etc, back to working from home. Mixing with friends even one to one.
Oh! Well! We managed before, guess we can again.
I’m inclined to think much the same as you Caricature.
We’ve had lockdowns, ‘social bubbles’, social distancing, masks, sanitizers, kids off school, businesses closing, and yet this killer virus still seems to be romping along.
And what’s the point in pubs having to shut at 10 pm for Christ’s sake? What difference will that make?
Do they think the virus only comes out after 10 o/clock, so shutting the doors before that will be safe?
And why are the hunters and shooters still allowed to lurk about in groups of 30 people?
I heard today that we can carry it for 5 days before it might show any symptoms.
So even if everyone in the country were tested, it still only shows up if the virus is active at the moment of giving the sample.
And what about those that are pronounced ‘Clear’? Having good test results won’t stop that person catching it the following day/week/month will it.
I have a real feeling of doom about this now, and I hadn’t felt like that until today. I find this very worrying now.
yes ,very worrying…and the only way any of us mere mortals are going to be able to mingle is if we are on horseback with a gun in our hands…seems these people neither catch it or spread it
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) has been carrying out a survey using swab testing to determine how many people from across the country at any one time are infected with Covid-19.
My understanding is that the later you have venues open the more drunk and disorderly people will be so they get too close. Plus they are less likely to be outdoors after that time (local noise rules etc).
That one has baffled me too Mups. Particularly given that I object to the “sport”. They don’t allow hiking groups of more than six and yet this lot are considered safe. Not safe for the animals!
I’ve been trying to understand how the asymptomatic infect others. If everyone adheres to strict hygiene protocols after being anywhere at risk then you shouldn’t infect others even if you have no symptoms (surely?). Many who work in hospitals leave their clothes in the porch and have another set to change into. They might have a shower when they get home. But for ordinary folk washing your hands is surely enough?
I was looking at the 5 days a while back and it’s the average but many people will know within two or three days.
To really get rid of this people have to take the mask and hygiene rules seriously for a longer period. But it goes against every grain of human nature to socially distance. People are gasping for human contact like water in a desert.
The trouble is that everyone has their own (quite often strong) opinion on the dangers and rather than adhere to public health messages they make up their own rules. I’ve stopped having discussions about it with friends and family because it’s as devisive a subject as can be.
More tests would be available in those most infected places though.
Also put any covid patients in the Nightingale hospitals straight away, not only the ones that need ventilators.
A returning holidaymaker who did not self-isolate was partly responsible for Bolton’s “extreme spike” in coronavirus cases. The man “went on a pub crawl with a number of mates” when he got home and tested positive for the virus a few days later.
Mr Greenhalgh, the town’s council leader, said: “We had an extreme spike where we went from 12 cases per 100,000 and in less than three weeks we were up at 212 cases. We had somebody who did not adhere to quarantine, did not stay the 14 days, literally went on a pub crawl with a number of mates. From that incident which took place over a weekend - (they) visited a number of premises - led to a large number of individual transmissions from that one person which you can imagine then is like holding back the tide because he then became symptomatic two days after they had all gone on this pub crawl. That is four or five days where all the people he was in contact with have been going about their normal day-to-day business.”
Bolton is now subject to tougher measures than most of England, with hospitality venues only allowed to operate as takeaways and ordered to shut by 22:00.
What a moron … :mad2:
It’s people like him who, given a “taste” of freedom, abuse the opportunity and who are, now, responsible for the “second wave” … :!:
Is he really responsible? Is he being put forward as a focus for hate to distract from the incompetent people who are supposed to be leading the fight?
I don’t think we’re being told the truth about anything. As I said it’s a lot of smoke and mirrors. Confuse, create fear, manipulate and using a pandemic to “their” own ends.
In my own small town, a teenager infected 3 pubs and 2 restaurants on one street - they had to be closed, all staff and traceable customers had to go into isolation …… :shock:
Others like him have infected “hospitality” establishments across the county, which was placed on “special measures” just days before BJ announced his “second wave lockdown” …… :!:
I can’t see how they can pin it down to one person if tests are so hard to get.
Friends of these people must know they’ve been on holiday so they’re just as bad.
Even though Dido Harding has made a complete shambles of Track, Test and Trace, tests are available for those with symptoms (which the carrier had developed) and 70% of contacts of positive cases can be traced - presumably at least SOME bars/restaurants maintain a customer register.
