Conservative Party Leadership Contest 2022

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Since when? Their lefty bias is plain for all to see.

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Only by those with righty-bias … :eyeglasses:

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Exactly, and of course, they think GB News, with it’s blatant right wing and anti woke agenda, isn’t biased at all :rofl:

How vile.

I think the way that some Conservatives would like to see someone as amoral and unprincipled as Johnson back in power is proof positive that the Conservative party, and some of it’s members and MPs, is institutionally amoral and unprincipled too, and unfit to form a government

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If the remainers hadn’t acted in the way they had to try and overturn the referendum result I’d say you might have a point.

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Quite … :+1:

The EU issue has nothing to do with the shameful way Johnson has behaved or the shameful way some Conservatives are behaving in continuing to support him

Trying to connect the two is just trying to cover up and muddy the water and whataboutery

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I call this way of thinking hypocrisy, it’s ok for us to do it, but not you.

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The news about the Legal Challenge to reinstate Boris as Party Leader is very confusing.

I thought Boris has resigned after a no-confidence vote which showed about 40% of the elected Tory MPs didn’t have confidence in him, then a number of his Cabinet resigned.
It’s not often a Party Leader survives long after getting to the stage of a No-confidence vote from their own Party MPs, even if they do win the vote.

I don’t see why it should be different for Johnson than for any other Party Leader who has felt forced to resign after expressions of no-confidence.

I’m not really understanding who is taking who to Court and why - is the petition signed by 6% of Tory members addressed to the Tory Party Chairman or whoever controls the Tory Party?
What have the Courts got to do with it? Isn’t it a matter for the Tory Party to resolve between themselves?

Even if this gets Boris re-instated as Party Leader and gets back in as PM, he still has the problem of 148 of elected Tory MPs have said they have no confidence in him - and the Tory majority is 66 seats.
With only 59% of his MPs supporting him, it may be difficult for him to govern until the next General Election.

Let’s not forget that all the Tory MPs were voted in by the public in the last GE - It is the Tory Party and their manifesto which was given a mandate to govern, not any one individual - that’s how the election system works.

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Trying to get a proven criminal, liar, and the biggest U-turner ever in the history of politics to stay in government is horrendous. And I would say that if it were ANY leader of ANY party. Its like a UK version of Trump :roll_eyes:

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From the article:

A petition among Conservative Party members demanding they get a vote in keeping Boris Johnson as Conservative Party leader has passed 10,000

Note he’s the leader of the Conservative party and the members are saying they should have a say if the leader of their party is ousted or not.

"The ousting of Boris Johnson as Prime Minister by a minority of MPs is deeply anti-democratic. It defies the will of the country and the Conservative Party members who elected him.

“It amounts to a coup. I am ashamed that this can happen in Britain, the birthplace of modern democracy. If that’s what politics has become, we’re living in a nation I can barely recognise any longer.”

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I don’t understand this bit though…it was his own people who were waiting for him at Number 10, telling him to go :woman_shrugging: And he resigned from leader of the party didn’t he? So he isn’t the leader anymore.

I am really confused now.

BIB (1) No, it doesn’t. The PM was not elected by the country.

BIB (2) Athens, France and the USA also lay claim to that.

The members elected who was to be the leader of their party, they’re saying it’s not up to a few MPs to go above the membership and get rid of their leader. The country voted the Tory party to be the Governing party. But it’s up to the membership to decide who is the leader of their party.

(1) Wasn’t Thatcher voted out as PM by MPs in a leadership contest?

Yes. I read the whole article.

As far as I can see, it’s an internal matter within the Tory Party, so I don’t understand where the High Court comes into it.
It just highlights yet again the deep divisions within the Tory Party if its membership have to take the Tory Party to Court!
Isn’t all this sound and fury just making the Party look even more shambolic?

And I don’t see how putting Johnson on the ballot paper and voting him back in as Tory Party Leader after he has just resigned would solve anything - they would be back in the same position as they were when there was a no-confidence vote among his MPs last month.
How long would he last?

Anyway, no problem to me - I don’t much care who is in charge of the Tory Party - as things stand now, I don’t foresee that much change in policy whoever is Party Leader - the best I can hope for is that with Boris gone, there will be more focus on policy and less on personality (from the media and public, I mean - BJ’s “colourful personality” has tended to dominate the narrative and drown out important details)

I feel that politics has been pushed down unprecedented and often “unparliamentary” routes much more often than usual in the last 6 six years - nothing that happens now can surprise me much.
I am intrigued as to how this will all pan out and will follow events with interest.

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Do two wrongs make a right?

I basically agree with this post.

Wasn’t it consecutive defeats by MPs in Parliament voting on her Brexit deals which prompted Theresa May’s resignation and a Tory leadership contest which BJ won?