Absolutely QeS, the most desirable countries are those who can stand on their own two feet and don’t meddle in other countries affairs…
If we got our finger out and started producing our own steel and energy (to name but a few) why would we need alliances. If we manufactured our own good stuff it would be in other countries interests to come to us like they used to, not the other way around.
We used to be able to stand on our own and didn’t need the EU or any other exclusive money sucking gang.
Joining the EU was the worst thing that ever happened to the UK, it was all down hill after that. Just look around you and tell me we benefitted from joining. Well before Brexit we lost our steel, coal, shipbuilding, engineering, farming, fishing and a whole lot more industries. We are in no man’s land now, we came out of the EU and didn’t get our skilled workers mobilised and started working, started producing…We wasted money on wars, net zero, buying oil and electricity from EU countries and cars from Germany and the far east. All our white goods, technology and clothes also come from the far east. We are a lazy over educated set of wusses and all our best people saw it coming and moved abroad…Didn’t they Lincs?
The iron ore is up North so it’s up to your friends and neighbours to organise opening up the mines OGF. Presumably someone builds the processing plants and sets up the transportation links. Dig deep in your pockets and form a co-op.
Arrrrrr. BUT. As our Capped Oil Fields
Recollecting COP30.
That would upset Miliband. And make Us.
Responsible For World Climate Change per ce. !!! sic
I am sure young Northerners of the same mindset as OGF can open up the iron mining if they put their minds to it. I don’t know enough about iron mining to be able to comment on the pollution it causes. There’s surely a benign benefactor who is loaded enough and cares enough about the UK to fund the re-establishment of this much loved industry. What do you suppose might be stopping them?
I don’t think you understand the scale of iron ore mining, Britain doesn’t even appear on the map of world iron ore reserves.
In Port Hedland km long iron ore trains arrive one after the other continuously 24 hours a day, 7 days a week 365 days of the year. One train is emptied and another immediately takes its place, This just one port. Iron ore is worth about US$105 per tonne, there is no way Britain could compete on price.
‘Not in my back yard then Annie’…So is it okay to send the pollution to the southern hemisphere? Are we not preventing the pollution, just moving it somewhere else?
Let me think…Who uses the steel that comes from the iron ore…
With the Coal Mining AND S. Wales Foundry fiascos’
Potential Miners are Disinclined. And in short supply.
Noted by Investors. And their reluctance to finance. A Modern Infrastructure. Sufficient enough to compete, with what exists. In such as Poland. et al
IMO. With minimal natural resources.
As with proactive Norway.
Quit the Farcical Morality of COP. And uncap both Gas & Oil Infrastructures, already in place.
OGF it is down to the people to organise themselves. It wasn’t the government setting up the initial steel industry here, but entrepreneurs. However, looking at the history it appears that from the very start in Victorian times the industry was complacent (as it had such a big market as a result of the empire). There was constant reluctance to adapt to changing economic conditions worldwide and the increased steel output from the US - resulting in cheap steel imports and making British output uncompetitive.
Government intervention did not help a jot. It made things worse.
It doesn’t appear that the US is a government-led industry. It seems that nobody here is entrepreneurial enough or able to plan (and I am not talking about the government but about a general mindset of complacency in UK business).
Well it’s funny but Poland has only been around in the markets for 35 years. So why are they more competitive? The Nowa Huta steelworks near Krakow would have been so out of date in 1990 as these were set up by the communist regime post war. How is Poland able to be competitive in such a short period whereas we cannot cope?
Re The OT.
As a supporter of Conservatism for 6 decades. Abandoned as Cameron.
Followed by Clown BoJO and three short lived Wannabees.
Reform. Talking the Talk. With no experiece or talent to walk the Walk.
Liberal. Even its title. Scans and Eludes to Solve. Historical.
This Labour Government. By no means the Best.
Has taken up the poisoned Chalice Challenge. Laboriously.
Transparent with facts.
Good or Bad. But necessary.
With a well chosen and proactive Cabinet of Ministers. In accorded over Priorities.
Re uniting Old dyed in the wool And New Labour, Amongst backbencher’s.
Internationally. Walking the Tight/Trip Wire. As Even Brokers. A talent of Starmer’s
Conclusion. Not the best hysterically. But learning quickly, with fingers on the pulse.
In short. The Best option we currently have.
As Opposed to a Multi Party Government. Persistently Meat Grinding each other.
And nothing Positive/Beneficial Occurring. Other than Apathy.
The government have put too many restraints on any UK business with their strict stance on net zero and high taxes Annie, there’s no wonder that no businessman would take on the steel industry, or any other business. Also, we do not have the skills now to run a competitive business because our young people are been educated in the wrong subjects.
The problem is obvious, Britain has few natural resources those it does have are in small enough quantities to be uneconomic to collect. It is just a fact of life.
Britain needs to value add, eg turn steel into cars (though I think that boat has sailed). It needs to find a niche, something it is good at and for which there is a great demand. Clinging on to old industries like agriculture and mining is daft, other countries are so much better at it.
Britain’s strength is as a trading nation and has been for centuries. Before this people were eating cabbage and oats all day without even a cup of tea to wash it down.
That’s because it was run by knobs Annie…The problems today are different, but end up with the same results.
It’s not a problem that we don’t have enough raw materials, it never has been. Iron ore was always shipped in from somewhere else giving the docks and workers jobs, and the steel that was produced was the best in the world. After all, stainless steel was invented in Sheffield.
So if it wasn’t the quality of the product, where does the blame lie Annie?
