We should have been a “Taker Outer” rather than a “Payer Inner”,
That’s the trick we missed last time!
Could have saved billions!
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@strathmore Exactly my point !
I’m talking government to government advice ?
Not corporate greed economics ??
Government’s are supposed to be the ones making policy not businesses !!
Oh my goodness, that comment demonstrates how little you know about the mechanics and fundamental principles of the formation and continuation of the EU. We took out huge amounts, regions in the UK benefitted from our membership. Countries in the EU were able to level up and trade on equal terms. Maybe you should check with farmers, the region of South Wales and Cornwall how they’re coping without the massive and generous EU grants. It’s sad that you’re so misguided.
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I think there is point to going back on less favourable terms because the consequences of staying out are going to be far worse☹️ We shouldn’t cut off our nose to spite our face and stay out because of some misplaced pride
We’ve got nothing to be proud about, the mistake in leaving was ours and we’ll have to go back cap in hand to ask to be allowed back in if we want to avoid ruin
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Countries in the EU were levelled up propped up using our money!
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The landowners take the grants, not the farmers.
Don’t used terms like “Misguided” on me, or I’ll come up there and misguide a rag man’s trumpet.
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Sorry to badly miss your point - thanks for the correction. I agree that the UK government would have done well to observe what successful EU governments were doing… but somehow I cannot see a UK government being happy to be seen to listen to an EU country government’s advice. You can the see the Daily Wail headlines now. And the posts on this forum.
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I think you are spot on with your posts.
We have given things away, nobody forced us to and we fixed the price agreed.
Sheer stupidity and a huge give away of public assets to the private sector including foreign firms and governments,
The French and German governments looked after their interests and made a success of the EU and we, the UK , did not,
We made a complete mess of it
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Should they not have been, collectively, looking after the interests of all the many members.
What’s the point of being in, otherwise?
@Baxter, quantify your claims Baxter, verified if possible ?
I would grateful if you can correct my “misinformation” ?? 
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We had exactly the same opportunity as others but did take it.
We are the only one who has sold assets for peanuts
The stupidity of it was known but the advice was ignored and we went ahead.
We are doing the same again now.
The International money markets and world Bank have condemned it but we know better and are ignoring them even though it has already cost us £65 billion and a huge rise in interest rates.
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You didn’t answer the question “What’s the point of being in, if they look after their own interests and not the interests of all the paying members”
The consequences of staying out are determined by how our government manages our country now we are out. Not going very well so far but then the leadership role appears to be a hot potato. We have too many reckless politicians.
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I think the potato has cooled down quite a bit, over the last few days.
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Simple, your baseline is wrong.
We cannot have other countries deciding our financial policies, they are ours and ours alone.
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The November budget is key … if Vat gets cut it means we are tearing up the TCA, and Irish protocol as they are all intrinsically linked.
So far Mogg is doing a great job trashing EU rules. If you want to know why people are up in arms about Kwartang removing the bankers bonus cap, it was an EU rule put in after the 2008 financial crisis. It was a big indicator on how a Truss government will remove us completely from the EU orbit
Just ask yourself why all those people are really upset about lifting the cap on bankets bonuses when, for each extra 1 million in bonuses, 40k goes back into the NHS, education and housing etc.
They’re all remainers
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There were British car plants if not British cars .
We made crap cars anyway, our designs were good but the constantly striking work force and poor quality control put paid to that ,
Ie the Honda factory in Swindon which has now closed down with a loss of over 3000 jobs
Not by a long shot .
The most popular cars are probably Japanese
Good to see you again, Bread.
Yes, a lot of remainers, but, pretty much the same number, still not enough to grab a vote!
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I agree about the constantly striking workforce but British cars were just as good as any others at that time.
You should spend more time on the road Muddy as I do, and 2 out of three cars are German.
Also, Toyota and Nissan are assembled here.
We can thank the green agenda for Honda pulling out of Swindon and the loss of hundreds of jobs…
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Honda said the closure, announced in 2019, was due to global changes in the car industry and the need to launch electric vehicles . It will be handed over in spring 2022 and the logistics firm has pledged to make a £700m investment to regenerate the site in Wiltshire.