Brexit benefits - where are they?

So what you don’t have to engage ,

Do we not have two camps split into, each, two further camps?
What was the remain vote are most likely split into ‘Returners’ (leaving was a bad idea, lets see how quick we can get back in) and ‘Improvers’ (we’ve left, no chance of re-joining for decades, but we need to make it a better Brexit than we have now).
Those who voted leave are likely split into ‘Celebrators’ (we left, it was the right thing, and it remains the right thing) and the ‘Doubters’ (we’ve left, it is no where near are rosy and beneficial as I thought it would be, it had better start showing benefits soon).

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Neither do you, Muddy!

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It feels as though it’s my Brexit friends who keep talking about it. Usually they are complaining that it’s not the Brexit they expected. Finally it’s pro Brexit political leaders who are being blamed for failing to deliver their promises.

It always seemed to me that every leave voter had their own personal Brexit, so many were bound to be disappointed. It feels as though we cannot move on from a blame game and having two sides. We are all together in this now so perhaps it’s time to stop fighting about the past and try to make the best of independence?

I have moved on in that I do not see a point in trying to go back to the EU and just hope for the best outcome now we are out. Some sensible political leadership would be a good start.

Well said.

But I don’t think that sensible leadership is likely when there is so much jockeying for power going on.

They have to say one thing, to get their colleagues to back them, and another to keep the public warm.

Done in public that’s not going to work.

I think that there are some big pushers, in the backround,(e.g. Gove). who are playing the field.

We’ll see!

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I can see Gove warming up the political environment to the idea that he is preferable.

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Do these people you know feel disappointed that the Brexit we have, in some way, is a diluted version of what was expected / hoped for? If so, what was wanted?
I’ve seen the term ‘Brexit in name only’ describing the agreement we have now. Is that the perspective?

trying to understand why post I just made needs approval?

I’ve also had one pulled and still waiting for approval Annie…

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deleted. Off topic.

No they don’t .
The Daily Mail has the largest publication and it’s a sensationalist rag .
Both it and the Torygraph are right wing and are funded accordingly by those who wish to push the right wing agenda.

There has to be an alternative to the right and that is the Guardian .
It is owned and financed by a trust which makes it independent of any financial influencer .

The Benefits seem to keep coming regardless of Brexit :+1: :icon_wink:

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To be honest I didn’t think many people bought a newspaper any more, newsagents aren’t the licence to print money any more.

I stopped buying a paper when the Sydney Morning Herald went from broadsheet to tabloid size.

Bruce, less is more.

@AnnieS, “posts pulled”
I’ve had two tonight too??
even asked me to be patient?
Got a feeling the word used to describe an illegal entrant to this country
has become illegal on this forum ??
There were 28,800 this year so far ??
And we can’t discuss it!! :-1::worried::worried::-1:

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Perhaps because there’s an ass in it?

@AnnieS,. Are we talking victimisation here Annie do you think ?? :-1::worried::worried::-1:

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Hi

I am not convinced that there is victimisation on this forum.

If you ask nicely in the right way you will get a very reasonable explanation.

There are instructions in the FAQ section.

@swimfeeders, Aye, and there’s the rub !! :grin::grin::grin:

@spitfire,. “Less is more”
Yeah, more or less ?