'100 invited' to Downing Street garden lockdown drinks

Spitfire not sure what point you’re making here. When either side broke the rules, I’m more surprised that anybody would be surprised. And I’d be surprised if nobody broke any of the rules, whether in politics or not. And as I’ve pointed out the media have and bet there are plenty more of them, but they’ll never hit the headlines.

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@Morticia 100000% agree not sure of it has always been like this or if now there is simply too much information/no where to hide World.

You can only challenge the gang In charge, when they gob off, if they are in charge, at the wrong place at the wrong time, so be it.

A cracking piece by Hitchens, as usual…

Sorry Foxy, you know its easy to forget context, the “World” not a single Nation was locked down under the threat of an “Unknown” enemy.

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Look, it is not the parties that matter. What mattered was that you were unjustly and mistakenly ordered to endure absurd limits on your life, by a government that panicked.

Well, he would say that wouldn’t he … :081:

Well the establishment would also say that Omah, this government don’t take criticism very well do they, and either discredit or silence dissenters, sometimes resorting to bogus science to debunk and wriggle out of embarrassing situations.
Put a few letters after your name and you’re a God these days.

Of course there’s a comparison, both unacceptable and an insult to everyone who made personal sacrifices to keep to the rules

But Keir Starmer isn’t PM and his party don’t impose the rules on the rest of us. Boris Johnson and his government did

There’s a phrase I read a lot elsewhere that I think applies ….“whataboutery”

It’s not OK for Boris Johnson’s supporters to try to get him if the hook and muddy the waters by saying “whatabout” Keir Starmer. Nothing that Starmer or anyone else did wrong makes what Boris Johnson did any better, or excuses his lies. He is the PM and has to answer as such.

And it’s Keir Starmer’s job in opposition to point those things Boris Kohnson did wrong out.

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Yep Maree…A famous person said ‘Two wrongs don’t make a right’…

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Maree I think these first two paragraphs of my post, answers your post:

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Indeed, the appallingly incompetent BJ the Buffoon is, sadly, in control of the UK - no amount of Tory obfuscation, prevarication and recrimination can disguise the fact that BJ is a serial rule-breaker and liar … :man_shrugging:

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I read this article too and I agree with you OGF, as you say a cracking piece and very well written IMHO.

What about Sweden? I seem to remember the Swedes didn’t lock down and their reported Covid numbers weren’t that far off ours.

I think you’ll find that Keir Starmer and his party actually voted in favour of imposing the rules on the rest of us.

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Ok, smokers always point out an exception to the rule, to justify their habit, shall we start listing the countries that did lock down.

I can see the point Wendeey is making.

The fact that Starmer isn’t PM is irrelevant. He’s a British citizen so should also have abided by the rules.

That’s why Keir Starmer is on a sticky wicket, as opposition leader or not, to be pointing out the PM’s failings.

Never mind whataboutery … more like pot … kettle …black … spring to mind.

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The boot has not been put in, that is understandable.

But there will be lots of pots and kettles.

And lots of hypocrites and liars

But none of their behaviour excuses Boris Johnson’s behaviour or mean that he’s fit to be our PM

Now it seems he lied to Parliament

And I think his supporters who trot out the stories about what other people did are just trying to get Johnson off the hook with whataboutery

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They did indeed, they were good rules and it’s appalling that he broke them

But that doesn’t make it any less appalling that our Prime Minister broke them

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I don’t think they do, really

Starmer acted badly too. Perhaps he should resign too. Does it matter, though?

Because that shouldn’t stop him as leader of the opposition pointing out the shameless way that Boris Johnson behaved while he was Prime Minister

I think Keir Starmer was right when he said it was important that they acted in the same way as the rest of the nation. Shame they didn’t

And it’s awful if our Prime Minister didn’t and lied to Parliament. If true, I don’t think he’s fit to be PM or would have any moral authority in the future.

And I don’t feel that Keir Starmer behaving badly too makes any difference to that, or that Boris’ supporters should try to use it to defend him

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two wrongs have never made a right, two wrongs making a left has never been tested.

That is exactly the point …

There will be lots of pots and kettles …

Actually, reading your other posts you seem to be especially miffed and peeved with Boris … not keen on him are you.