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Next up is Noam Chomsky
Noam Chomsky was labelled the most important intellectual alive.
In 2005 he was voted the world’s leading public intellectual from a list of 100 prominent thinkers.
Noam Chomsky was born on December 7, 1928, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
His parents were Ashkenazi Jewish immigrants. His mother emigrated from Belarus, and his father from Ukraine.
An intensely private person, he is uninterested in appearances and the fame his work has brought him.
Chomsky is not motivated by a desire for fame, but impelled to tell what he perceives as the truth and a desire to aid others in doing so.
“Noam Chomsky is one of the most significant challengers of unjust power and delusions; he goes against every assumption about American altruism and humanitarianism.” —Edward Said (Palestinian-American philosopher and academic)

For fifty years, Noam Chomsky’s writings on politics and language have established him as a preeminent public intellectual and as one of the most original and wide-ranging social critics of our time.
Among the seminal figures in linguistic theory over the past century, since the 1960s Chomsky has also secured a place as perhaps the leading dissident voice in the United States.

Chomsky’s many bestselling works—including Manufacturing Consent,(of which I have read) Hegemony or Survival, Understanding Power, and Failed States - have served as essential touchstones for dissidents, activists, scholars, and concerned citizens on subjects ranging from the media to human rights to intellectual freedom.
His scathing critiques of the U.S. wars in Vietnam, Central America, and the Middle East have been the intellectual inspiration for antiwar movements over nearly five decades.
As the political landscape has changed over the course of Chomsky’s life, he has remained a steadfast voice on the left, never wavering in his convictions and always questioning entrenched power.

Chomsky ranks with Marx, Shakespeare, and the Bible as one of the ten most quoted sources in the humanities—and is the only writer among them still alive.
He is both revered and reviled.
American conservative commentator David Horowitz called him “the most devious, the most dishonest and … the most treacherous intellect in America”, whose work is infused with “anti-American dementia” and evidences his “pathological hatred of his own country”

I know that people have strong views regarding Noam Chomsky.
I admire the man for exposing the truths which many want to remain hidden.

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He introduced a lot of us to the wonders of the cosmos.

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Alexander Borodin.
Doctor,chemist and composer.

Although he is presently known better as a composer, he regarded medicine and science as his primary occupations, only practising music and composition in his spare time or when he was ill.

Borodin was a promoter of education in Russia and founded the School of Medicine for Women in Saint Petersburg, where he taught until 1885.

The evocative characteristics of Borodin’s music—specifically In the Steppes of Central Asia , his Symphony No. 2, Prince Igor – made possible the adaptation of his compositions in the 1953 musical Kismet , by Robert Wright and George Forrest, notably in the songs “Stranger in Paradise”, “And This Is My Beloved” and “Baubles, Bangles, & Beads”.

This is a fabulous version from Prince Igor done by the Bolshoi Ballet.

https://youtu.be/_D06rsbKGBc?si=mkUdU2D9nNd54yoe

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One very interesting lady was Coco Chanel
Trailblazer. Icon. A force to be reckoned with.
Renowned French designer Gabrielle ‘Coco’ Chanel lived a life of light and dark, glamour and controversy, which is what she intended.
Amidst the glitz of Paris, the revolutionary businesswoman redefined the world of fashion and created stylish clothing for a new generation of modern women who were ambitious, intelligent, and rebellious.
Her iconic little black dress and bouclé jackets and skirts are now classic style staples seen all over the world.
Born Gabrielle Bonheur Chanel on the 19th August 1883 she was a French fashion designer and businesswoman The founder and namesake of the Chanel brand, she was credited in the post World War I era with popularizing a sporty, casual chic as the feminine standard of style.
Her parents were Eugénie Jeanne Devolle Chanel, a laundrywoman, and Albert Chanel, who worked as a street vendor.
The family lived in poverty while moving throughout the French countryside. After her mother died in 1895, 11-year-old Gabrielle Chanel was sent to a convent-run orphanage in Aubazine. It was there that she learned to sew.
At age 18, Gabrielle moved to Moulins, where she attended school while living in a convent. In 1902 she struck out on her own and became a seamstress. During this time Chanel also worked as a café singer.
While the origin of her nickname “Coco” is uncertain, some believe it is a reference to several songs she performed: “Ko Ko Ri Ko” (“Cock-a-doodle-doo”) and “Qui qu’a vu Coco?” (“Has anyone seen Coco?”).

Coco had an affair with Arthur Capel, (a wealthy businessman, politician, tycoon, polo-player, and shipping merchant) until his death in 1919.
With his financial assistance, she opened Chanel Modes, a tiny millinery shop in Paris, in 1910. Two years later she established a boutique in Deauville, France.
Within five years her original designs to create a “poor girl” look had attracted the attention of influential wealthy women.
Coco’s maxim was “luxury must be comfortable, otherwise it is not luxury,” Chanel’s designs stressed simplicity and comfort, and they revolutionized the fashion industry.

In 1926 Chanel continued to transform fashion by introducing the so-called “little black dress”. While Chanel was not the first fashion designer to use black, the color was commonly reserved for mourning attire or more formal wear.
Chanel’s black dress, however, was incredibly versatile, easily transitioning from day to evening with the right accessories—such as the costume jewelry she often wore. The Little Black Dress was hailed for both its simplicity and mass appeal.

While Chanel found immense success as a designer, the financial basis of her empire was Chanel No. 5.

She developed the phenomenally successful perfume in 1921 with the help of Ernest Beaux, one of the most talented perfume creators in France. It has been said that the perfume got its name from the series of scents that Beaux created for Chanel to sample—she chose the fifth, a combination of jasmine and several other floral scents that was more complex and mysterious than the single-scented perfumes then on the market.
Chanel was the first major fashion designer to introduce a perfume and that she replaced the typical perfume packaging with a simple and sleek bottle also added to the scent’s success.
Chanel closed her couture house in 1939 with the outbreak of World War II.
At the time she was living at the Ritz Paris hotel, which became Nazi headquarters after France fell to Germany in 1940.
There she began a romantic relationship with Baron Hans Günther von Dincklage, a German diplomat and Gestapo spy.
While researchers and biographers have demonstrated that Chanel was a collaborator, there is disagreement over the extent of her involvement with Nazis.
Some allege that she only socialized with Germans, turning a blind eye to their activities. Others, however, assert that she was a Nazi agent.
Of particular note is a trip she took to Madrid with a German intelligence agent in 1941. It is believed that she had entered into a deal with the Nazis to secure the release of her nephew, who was a prisoner of war in a German detention camp.
Although it is unknown what she did in Madrid, soon after Chanel returned to France, her nephew was freed.
Soon after the Nazi occupation ended in 1944, Chanel was arrested by French authorities. However, no charges were brought, and Chanel later claimed that British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, a longtime friend, had intervened.
She subsequently moved to Switzerland.
In the early 1950s Chanel began to contemplate a return to fashion.
At the time French fashion had undergone a seismic change led by Christian Dior. He had created the widely copied New Look, a style defined by ultrafeminine, elaborate, and highly sculptured clothing.
Chanel, who favored simpler and more comfortable designs, was derisive of the look, and at one point she claimed, “Dior doesn’t dress women, he upholsters them.”

In 1954 Chanel staged her first fashion show in some 15 years. Although the French press had negative reviews, the collection proved popular in the United States.
That year Chanel also introduced her highly copied suit design: a collarless, braid-trimmed tweed jacket with a graceful skirt.

In 1954 Chanel staged her first fashion show
By the end of the 1950s, she had also debuted several other iconic items, notably a quilted purse with gold chains and two-toned shoes. These creations helped Chanel reclaim her position as one of fashion’s most influential designers.

After her death in 1971, Chanel’s couture house was led by a series of designers, with Karl Lagerfeld’s tenure (1983–2019) being the longest and most influential.
Under their direction, the Chanel brand has remained one of the most influential and iconic. Coco Chanel’s shrewd understanding of women’s fashion needs, her enterprising ambition, and the romantic aspects of her life—her rise from rags to riches and her sensational love affairs - continue to inspire numerous biographical books, films, and plays.
Notable examples include the 1969 Broadway musical Coco, which starred Katharine Hepburn as the legendary designer, and Coco Before Chanel, 2009 a biopic with Audrey Tautou in the title role.
The disturbing Story of Coco Chanel

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@Bretrick For me, in my lifetime, Simon Wiesenthal (31-12-1908 to 20-10-2005) has been inspiring and deeply interesting for his relentless pursuit of fugitive Nazi war criminals.
I could write his biography, but I’d prefer to leave the research to those forum members who find this respected gentleman interesting. You will not be disappointed.
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The world needs people like him.
The pursuit of perpetrators of atrocities must continue.
Their crimes must not go unpublished.
Thank you for contributing this.

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Cancelled post too many errors!

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Just when I was about to read it. :grinning:

Was trying to edit Wiki so it was not so long and involved and got in right muddle
Story I read a long time ago and came across it again recently,
Louis Renault the founder of Renault as certain as it seems was Collaborating with The Nazi’s in World World 11

A link of two will be better all around right now Bretrick…sometimes this Dyslexia take’s over when stressed out…

this is like a double edged sword as there are stories that are on either side.

RIGHT OF REPLY OF THE HEIRS OF LOUIS RENAULT: ANNICK FABRY, HÉLÈNE DINGLI, LOUIS RENAULT, HENRI RENAULT AND OLIVIER RENAULT

The article entitled “It was January 16: Renault is nationalized” published on January 16, 2022 on the website www.libération.fr contains two statements that can be qualified as defamation directed against the memory of Louis Renault. It is in fact first stated that Louis Renault was " in the pre-war period " " close to the Croix-de-Feu and the Cagoule, a terrorist and clandestine movement of the extreme right " then it is maintained that Louis Renault himself proposed to the Nazi occupiers to requisition its factories which supplied trucks to the German armed forces.

As part of the exercise of their right of reply provided for by the combined provisions of the laws of June 21, 2004 and July 29, 1881, the descendants of Louis Renault, who have been following for decades the important historical research work concerning the founder of the Usines Renault, would like to point out that these two assertions are not based, to their knowledge, on any serious document or reliable historical source.

The first assertion that Louis Renault was close to far-right movements and in particular to a terrorist group, the Cagoule, has no serious basis. Louis Renault never supported far-right groups, movements which he on the contrary condemned in a text dated 1937 entitled “Three Reforms” in which he castigated “ right or left revolution ”, specifying that a “ fascist revolution changes nothing except on the surface ” at the cost of “ much misery and bloodshed ” and “ lost freedom ”. Louis Renault also criticized his nephew by marriage François Lehideux, managing director of his company, for his proximity to far-right movements, a link which could tarnish the image of Usines Renault. As for the false accusation that the Renault company financed the Cagoule, it has a known origin. It comes from a communist trade unionist in the context of a violent social movement in November 1938 and earned its author a conviction for defamation in January 1939.

The second allegation according to which Louis Renault himself proposed the requisition of his factories to the German occupiers is also a manifest historical error. On June 18, 1940, the day his factories were requisitioned by the Wehrmacht, Louis Renault was in North America on mission from the French government and participated in organizing military aid from the United States to France, and in particular the manufacture of tanks, in order to continue the war against Germany. Louis Renault returned to Paris on July 23, 1940, more than a month after the requisition of his factories in which he played no role.

The Paris Court of Appeal declared itself incompetent on Wednesday in the case of the heirs of the automobile manufacturer, who are seeking compensation from the State for the nationalization-sanction of the firm in 1945. In both camps, historians are talking archives.

While the grandchildren of Louis Renault intend to continue to fight on the legal ground to rehabilitate their grandfather, accused of collaboration during the Second World War, the manufacturer’s unions are indignant at what they describe as a business revisionist. In reality, the controversy has never stopped since the nationalization-sanction decided upon at the Liberation and which the heirs are trying to reverse . No one disputes that the Renault Factories Limited Company (SAUR) produced for Nazi Germany, and that this production generated profits. But what is Louis Renault’s personal responsibility? What exactly did he produce? And with what zeal? Even today, historians strongly differ on the role played by the manufacturer during the German occupation.

“An exceptional place in the German war apparatus”

Two theses are opposed. The first is advocated by the historian Annie Lacroix-Riz , professor emeritus at the University of Paris-VII, specialist in economic collaboration during the Second World War and author in particular of French Industrialists and Bankers under the Occupation. Economic collaboration with the Reich and Vichy . The trade union world relies on his research to denounce “the vast rehabilitation enterprise of Louis Renault”. According to her, Renault not only manufactured tanks, but also occupied “an exceptional place in the German war apparatus”. As a 96% shareholder, Louis Renault is personally held responsible for this “enthusiastic” collaboration.

The other has as its main spokesperson the historian Laurent Dingli , who devoted a biography to the industrialist. His detractors point out that he is a specialist in the 17th century and, above all, that he is the husband of one of the industrialist’s granddaughters. In an article published in April on the site louisrenault.com, he accuses Annie Lacroix-Riz of “major historical errors” and asserts that the negotiations with the Nazis in the first days of the Occupation were the work not of Louis Renault but of his nephew by marriage, François Lehideux, the general director of the company, with whom Louis Renault was reportedly on bad terms. He also assures that although Renault produced trucks and repaired tanks for the Germans, it never manufactured war equipment. Above all, these repairs would have been carried out “in workshops requisitioned by the Germans under the direction of their engineers and with personnel recruited directly by them”.

Archives still inaccessible

For historian Patrick Fridenson, director of studies at EHESS and author of A History of Renault Factories , the truth lies in neither of these two positions. “After the bombings of March 1942, company records show that management was not unanimous in rebuilding the factories. It was Louis Renault who, returning from his vacation in Saint-Moritz, decided to do it,” he explains. An indication of the desire shown by the manufacturer to maintain production for the Germans despite the bombings.

But, on the question of tanks, Patrick Fridenson affirms, like Laurent Dingli, that Renault did not manufacture any. Above all, he is careful not to draw hasty conclusions about the degree of personal and voluntary involvement on the part of Louis Renault. “In the current state of the sources, we do not have the traces of the declarations which would allow us to know to what extent he pushed the wheel or on the contrary slowed down production,” he assures. Some private Daimler archives are not yet accessible. And if some German national archives are in France, a large part is scattered all over the world.

An argument that Annie Lacroix-Riz considers inadmissible. The historian recognizes that we have to deal with the “massive destruction or subtraction of archives” carried out by the Renault factories and the Automobile Industry Organization Committee (COA), created under Vichy to adapt production to needs. Germans. But she claims to have overcome this obstacle by studying a large quantity of public and private archives, French and German, all dating from the Occupation.

As for the question of tanks, “you only have to read the notes from the Gaullist intelligence services in London, where the production and delivery of Renault tanks are described in detail,” she says. It is no coincidence that the Allies, who ultimately did little to bomb French industrial installations, considered it crucial to bomb the Renault site at Billancourt four times. And if the COA, which discussed with the German arms services in France the benefits granted to the various manufacturers, estimated in 1942 that Renault deserved to receive an “exceptional” margin rate of 12%, or 20% more than the other major manufacturers, it is because the services rendered to the Wehrmacht put it at risk of particularly severe bombings which therefore had to be compensated…"

As for the “zeal” shown by the manufacturer to relaunch production despite the bombings, it shows that "Renault went so far as to build underground factories, and this until July 1944, that is to say a months before release.

Then you could just read this…as it is a lot of reading!!!

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As did so many other people, businesses.

Yes they certainly did Vichy will never be forgotten by the French people…
Renault was the only vehicle manufacturer that was arrested and likely murdered…the Company was taken over by the government and was years before the family battles would give in…It did of course go back into the Private sector again…

Was the automobile manufacturer Louis Renault wrongly accused of active collaboration with the Germans? More than sixty years later, his grandchildren are convinced of it. At the end of 2011, they attacked the State to challenge the legality of the nationalization-sanction of the Renault company, in 1945, for collaboration with the enemy. Opponents of this procedure, including the CGT metallurgy and a federation of deportees, filed a civil suit. The Paris Court of Appeal having declared itself incompetent, the family’s request for compensation was dismissed. The case should go to cassation. If the heirs of the founder of the diamond brand one day win their case, the State will have to pay them a colossal sum. Renaults already have a great heritage. Behind this legal battle lies another fight: the rehabilitation of the ancestor who has become the symbol of the collabo boss.

The thesis of zealous cooperation Arrested the day after the Liberation of Paris, he was thrown in prison for endangering state security. He died there, two months later, without having been tried. Founder with his brother of the Boulogne Billancourt company in 1898, Louis Renault had developed it so much that, in the 1930s, the factory employed 30,000 workers. In 1940, Renault, like any industrial company, was forced to work for the Germans. With Vichy’s ban on producing offensive war material. The manufacturer must limit itself to manufacturing spare parts and repairing Wehrmacht vehicles.

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At the head of the fierce supporters of the thesis of Louis Renault’s zealous cooperation with the Nazis is a historian, Annie Lacroix-Riz, specialist in economic collaboration during the Second World War, and member of the Communist Party. This asserts that Renault was building new tanks for the occupier… hence the massive bombings by British planes, in 1942 and 1943, of the Billancourt factory. Madame Lacroix-Riz also produced photographs of the builder with Hitler, attesting, according to her, to the closeness of the two men. One dates from 1936 and a joint interview in the German capital, the other was taken in 1939, also before the start of the conflict, during a protocol visit by the Führer to the Renault stand at the Berlin Motor Show. .

Nothing really convincing . No more than the documents from the archives of the Paris Police Prefecture detailing the Gestapo arrests of communist workers working at Renault. For the historian, these men were denounced by the company. However, no trace of any denunciation has been discovered.

The view of historians The historian Laurent Dingly is also involved in this affair since he married Hélène Renault, one of Louis’ granddaughters. He is the author of a very honest biography of the automaker. According to him, Renault has never manufactured war equipment. Certainly, vehicle repairs were well carried out in Billancourt. But in buildings requisitioned by the Nazis, and placed under the supervision of the German manufacturer Daimler-Benz.

In this fascinating document, released after a subject on French death trains, a Renault worker, at the time of the war, confirms that the manufacturer did not produce assault tanks. Renault car assembly lines are not equipped for this type of vehicle.

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Other historians and not the least , such as Henry Rousso, research director at the CNRS , are surprised, like the lawyer of the Renault family, Thierry Lévy, that the car manufacturer was the only boss to suffer, at the Liberation , such a serious sanction. “No other company has been the subject of such treatment, even among those whose directors have been convicted by the courts for acts of collaboration,” argued Mr. Lévy .

So why this hallali? The reason perhaps dates back to the 1930s, the scene of violent clashes between workers and big bosses. On the front line of the claimants: the communist trade unionists of the CGT . At Renault, they face an implacable boss. In 1936, two thirds of its employees were unionized. The company becomes the stronghold of the Communist Party. During the major strikes at the end of 1938, Louis Renault took his revenge. He fired 1,800 people, including all the delegates and executives of the CGT . In 1944, when General de Gaulle formed the provisional government of the French Republic, the communists figured prominently. What if the arrest and robbing of the builder was simply revenge?

Sylvie Véran

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Even now there has been many issues with the Business Renault…

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/timeline-renault-s-industrial-espionage-scandal-idUSTRE72326E/

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/timeline-renault-s-industrial-espionage-scandal-idUSTRE72326E/

https://www.proxinvest.com/en/2019/07/22/landmarks-since-ghosns-arrest/

https://louisrenault.com/2015/12/27/the-daily-telegraph-by-henry-samuel-13th-may-2011/d
the list goes on and on…

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I like Chanel no 5 :slight_smile:

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Sir David Frederick Attenborough
is a British broadcaster, natural historian/biologist and writer.

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Ernestine Shepherd is an 88 year old American body builder. 88 years old…!

At 56, her and her sister decided to get fitter, after trying on swimwear and finding it a little snug shall we say.

They tried aerobics first, then her sister decided to challenge herself with some body building classes, and Ernestine followed suit. Both ended up taking it really seriously and took part in shows up and down the country, under the names “Velvet” and “Ernie”.

Sadly Ernestine’s sister died in the 1990’s, and “Ernie” carried on competing in her sisters memory, eventually being crowned the oldest living competitive female body builder at one point, by the Guinness Book of World Records ( 2010) at the age of 74.

Even now at 88, she still gets up at the crack of dawn, goes running, eats a frugal diet of mostly protein, and lifts weights.

Ernestine Shepherd | The Guinness World Record Oldest Female Body Builder

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What does she get up to during the rest of the day… :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

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She naps, teaches classes, and probably tidies up after her husband…because even after being married for 52 years, he likely still leaves the newspaper lying around, loses the TV remote control, and doesn’t wash the dishes :roll_eyes:

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Really, most uncharitable if I may say so? :rofl:
A grain of truth perhaps, I dug this out from behind the TV yesterday , a bit dusty as you can see, I’m good with the dishes though :innocent:

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Agreed! Goodall is a gem human being who changed the way see all animals with our humbling onus of stewardship of them all. She wrote one of my very favorite books with the brilliant dual-meaning title, Reason for Hope. If you ever have a chance to see her lecture; go. You will not be disappointed!

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Oh there’s hope for you yet then! :joy:

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