No negativity here Supergirl, and it was a good suggestion, and if it was just concerning our younger generation - because most of them will lose the skills of map reading anyway, because in a virtual world you can stick a pair of those goggles on, and there will be no need to get out of your armchair to enjoy the countryside - And you may still be right because myself and many others who still enjoy maps will either be deceased, or two old and infirm to go swanning around the country. Conservation is not a problem, you have been brainwashed into believing that there wonāt be enough trees to manufacture maps and other paper thingsā¦Except, maps and other paper things donāt need a fraction of the wood it takes to build a house. So if we run short of timber, itās because we rely on it so much in building and construction. If we are talking conservationā¦ You must first consider the massive mining operations and the destroying of great swathes of land in our need for lithium and cobalt. If everyone in the country suddenly bought an electric vehicle there would not be sufficient of these rare metals to build the batteries. Not to mention the quantities needed to build the batteries for the national grids idea of building massive power storage units to subsidise and store energy when the sun donāt shine, and the wind donāt blowā¦So donāt worry about trees and paperā¦And by the wayā¦most of the paper we use today has been recycledā¦
Thatās brilliant Bretrick, itās even better when you find a derelict site that has been forgotten.
I seek out and log down trig points for a hobbyā¦(I know itās off subjectā¦ 
bloody life goes off subject sometimes)
During one of my visits while crashing through the nettles and brambles in a dark overgrown forest I came upon thisā¦
I eventually found what I was looking for hereā¦
Ināt live brilliantā¦
Yup, maps are already obsolete. On a TV show called Ellen, the host wanted to test what teenagers know. This clip is 3 years old. In it, a 17 year old is trying to fold a map and is fumbling. Sheās never used a map and probably would have to Google to figure out how one works.
In 10 years, most people who are middle aged wonāt even have used one.
Yep, thatās what I saidā¦
It will be interesting to see what happens to the civilised world when the internet goes down.
Headless chickens springs to mindā¦
Yes it is brilliant. All we have to do is go and seek it out. 
Same as when the power grid goes down. The civilized world canāt live in darkness just because it was possible to live with candles at one time. Technology does move on.
I have many happy memories of sitting down on a Friday night with a beer or two and a couple of Ordnance Survey maps.
Iād be planning my cycling route for early the next morning. Reading a proper map is like reading a proper book 
Itās like a house of cards butterscotch, the more advanced and complex life becomes, the greater the risk of it all collapsing. Either by a natural occurrence, or human sabotage. Putin perhaps.
I dread the day when all technology is wiped out by a solar flare?
The world would be thrown into chaos.
Yep, they come around every so often Bretrick, fortunately there has not been one since we went all technical.
And? There are always dangers to . . . anything. Without technology to warn about Putin or other sabotage, people would be even less safe.
The chicken little dance is only effective if thereās an alternative thatās better.
Most people are not willing to live off the grid in the unlikely event that an occurrence that happens once every 500 years will happen again. Even if it did, technology is still a better bet to help pick up the pieces than living in the dark ages.
i wonder if the inventor of the candle got mentioned in the queens birthday honours listā¦the most worrying thing that will likely be no longer used is common sense you hardly ever hear it mentioned in Prime Ministers questions, just childish tit fot tatā¦
No, Iām not saying live off the grid butterscotch, and yes, benefit from the technology that there isā¦But always have a āPlan Bāā¦
Iām afraid the government lost common sense a long time ago Crabbyā¦
Itās dated from 2019 but interesting!
I tried home delivery once during the pandemic but was not impressed, letās face it, the girls selecting the stuff have no interest in the quality just quantity.
Having said that when ever I visit either Coles or Woollies there are always several girls with trolleys (not customer type trolleys) collecting for several customers each and the click and collect bays outside the supermarkets seem to be constantly in use.