What has happened to Word?

Ditto

Which is why I never upgraded to W10 and stayed on W7

All of this BS was so so predictable

W10 is just a selling platform. It’s foundational aspect was that Microsoft would be in control of the computer rather than the user imho.

With W7 the user is in control.

Accordingly my laptops have Windows Updates completely disabled and thus what I run on my laptops runs fine in perpetuity. Microsoft can’t get their claws into it.

Of course I won’t be able to do this forever.

The great collusion of giant corporations is already leading to websites that just refuse you entry unless you have certain versions of Windows and/or browsers.

Google Maps for example. They worked fine with old laptops and IE versions but Google arbitrarily decided to actually BLOCK entry to the site for machines with old versions.

All of course to make people upgrade to W10

Other websites are now following, refusing to display at all if you don’t have later versions of browsers.

Thing is, if an old version of a browser makes the website not display perfectly well that’s my lookout isn’t it not theirs so why block people? I’m happy to have a website view that isn’t quite perfect but no, they are actually blocking entry to the website if I don’t have specific versions of browsers. As I say, all a ploy to force users to W10.

We start off with somebody asking for help and end up with some taking the opportunity (once again) to post the usual rants about Windows 10 and Microsoft …none of which I agree with incidentally. Broken records playing here. I give up!

Then do as some of us have suggested: download LibreOffice and don’t feel beholden to Microsoft.

I feel the same way. Windows 7 was perfectly fine, but Microsoft likes to dictate to its customers.

Well done! I have tried to do the same but eventually and inevitably I am forced to accept their updates. I assume that if running W7 the updates cannot be forced upon you?

To be honest, I can live with W10 but, ideally, I’d like to avoid continual demands that I accept Windows Updates.

My computer runs perfectly well without them and, annoyingly, when I do have to accept one it is not unusual for it to compromise some of my settings.

Simple question: if my computer continues to work properly without updates, why can’t I choose not to have them?

It probably would be a good move and would save me moaning about MS :lol: but I think a complete change of OS would make me very nervous. I plan to buy another laptop at the end of the year so maybe I could try it on this old one first to see how I get on.

I assume I can still make a partition on Win10 and stick it on there.

Correct. With Win 7 the user has the simple ability to totally disable ALL windows updates.

Because with Win 10 you are no longer in control.

They can and will force updates one way or another. You may be able to delay when you update but in the end you will have to take them.

As we saw with the frankly criminal way MS went about forcing people to upgrade from older versions to W10 by throwing an update down the line that auto upgraded you, their intentions and methods are quite clear.

I rarely do docs nowadays but when I do I use LibreOffice. I,m all for Freeware. :wink:

I’m sure that’s been asked before and I have given an opinion on it. Probably…

  • Not read.
  • Read and instantly forgotten.
  • Read but not remembered later.
  • Disagreed with and discarded.
  • Not worth taking in the post in the first place. :slight_smile:

Whatever the case, I wouldn’t want to keep repeating myself. I’m sure it could be searched for.

I think once an opinion is set in the mind of a person that cares about a subject, nothing anyone says will change it. We take note of what’s said by the people or articles we think are important and then the mind becomes closed. We can dance around a topic a few times in a discussion for the sake of making posts but the crux of the matter is that anybody who cares about the subject under ‘discussion’ is not going to give an inch. I believe that’s the stage we’re all at with the current Microsoft OS and its updates.

It’s just that there’s just no need to keep bringing this up in other subjects in my opinion. We all know who has strong opinions on Windows 10. To me, there’s no point in trying to help with a Microsoft problem if it’s only going to be used as a platform for bringing up the same old Windows 10 comments again and again. The situation is what it is. People are running W.10, the programs on it and want some help with some aspect or other.

I suspect your mind is set JBR but if not, it’s best spread you wings wider than here and do your own research. I’m pretty happy with the way I run the computer but whatever conclusions you come to would be respected by me, even if it’s not what I do.

This reputable site might be a place to start researching the question of Windows updates. Saves me from writing about it again. :slight_smile:

https://www.howtogeek.com/406120/why-does-windows-10-update-so-much/

Yes, you can do that LD. When you install Linux Mint, it offers to set up a dual-boot system. After this is set up and when the computer is switched on, the option is given to boot either into Windows or Linux.

Great. I have an old W7 laptop.
Unfortunately, the battery doesn’t hold a charge any more and several of the keys don’t work!

If only I could remove W10 and load W7 on my new laptop.

JBR you can order a new battery for the W7 laptop no problem.

I tend to use

Just search for your machine. Well worth doing.

My laptop also had some keys not working and the connection to the screen was also broken meanng it would only display at certain angles. In the end I went onto Amazon, searched for my specific laptop model (which is of course no longer made). I found 3 matches for 2nd hand machines so I ordered one which arrived without delay.

I opened it up, removed the hard disk, motherboard etc and put the ones from my old laptop into it. Sweet as a nut.
Worked straight away.

Remember you HAVE to keep the motherboard with your version of Windows as the 2 are tied together. You can’t just swap the hard disks.

Really wasn’t difficult at all, just took it slow and steady and put all the screws neatly to one side.

That’s a thought! Thank you.

I have had a terrible day .
Endless trying to get in touch with Microsoft ( it always rejects my password for a start .eventually they say they have no record of my Microsoft Office licence,
Go to local PCworld and ask them to try and find it.
They admit they sold me one , it’s on the store receipt -( at anther branch as they didn’t have the model of computer in stock) a one time life time licence but they can’t find the record . The branch where I got the computer is thirty five miles away -they set it up for me too)
They think the person who set it up may have put in the wrong email .
They give me tel no of branch - I call it forever they never pick up.
Meanwhile me who never throws anything away can’t find the box it canme in or the receipts or the card for microsift OFFICE licence .
I NEVER throw out receipts or boxes so where is it ?
Am exhausted with all this .
Tomorrow will look again and if necessary go to the other branch ( but pc world tells me due to data protection they don’t keep records of customer details anymore .
What a mess I hate all this .
My day is ruined and I have achieved nothing but frustrations .
In five days they say my word documents may be deleted .
This will be a disaster .
I hate technology

:023:

Thanks Mart

Your first mistake:

You bought it from PCWorld!

Sorry. I know that’s no help.

Where are the files stored? On the computer, on OneDrive or both?

I’m afraid I missed that bit.

I find that disgusting.

Even the almighty Microsoft has no right to delete your files.

Of course, the PCWorld ‘experts’ may be talking out of their a***s.

On the computer .
What is Onedrive ?

I have backed them up to a memory stick .

Microsoft didn’t say deleted ( that’s was what pc world said ) MS said they may be disabled or difficult to access …