Western Society shelves stock with cheap, Chinese rubbish

What do the Chinese people in China buy.
Are their shelves stocked with cheap products or are their goods better quality?

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Probably cheap products … they help keep the economy going replacing them all.
That said … communism seems to have worked for the average Chinese citizen and they seem to have a fairly good standard of living.

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The USA wants to control the world by force,China controls by selling everyone stuff :grinning:.

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Chinese stuff is colourful.

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Years ago it used to come from sweatshops in Korea …or the EU. Haven’t seen anything from there for ages.

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If I go to a $2 Shop I might see some colourful Chinese rubbish but I am typing this on an excellent laptop in front of a $17 fan both were made in China. Chinese made cars are proving very popular too

I have no problem with Chinese products, if people want to buy cheap rubbish then you can hardly blame the Chinese for making stuff to fulfil that need.

We live in a free market China is obviously supplying goods that are in demand and as long as they keep buying our lovely iron ore and delicious coal more strength to their arm, they are helping to pay my pension.

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It may be cheap in price, but most Chinese stuff I’ve come across is good quality.
I buy mostly tools, and the Chinese tools are as good as anything I’ve used in the past…
My only criticism is, why aren’t we making our own? Providing work for British factories and engineers? It’s not always about the money. It’s about communities and the local economy. It’s about people being in work and learning and using skills…Chasing cheap foreign imports will kill the UK stone dead, if it hasn’t already. Ban foreign imports and buy British. Globalism is killing us and turning us into a third world country.

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Many years ago, probably about 2005, I had to go to Beijing a few times with work. Remember, this is 20 years ago when the Chinese economy was only just developing. On a day off I walked round the city centre. Popped into a shopping centre. Every single shop was a western designer business - Prada, Hermes - the lot. And also a Rolls-Royce shop. Try finding one of those in the UK.
Today, there are over 800 billionaires in China. Impressive. And there are 6 million millionaires. The middle class in China amounts to over 700 million people. The high speed rail network in China works out at 2/3 of the world’s total of high speed rail. China builds and sells 27 million cars a year (and has a capacity to build 50 million - that is, swamp the world with high quality cars). The R&D department of their telecom company Huawei employs 35,000 engineers and scientists. Just in R&D.
I guess the answer to the question is yes, there is tat for sale in China. But that hides a economic powerhouse reality.

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Just keep on makin them bike wheels guys :laughing:

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And Crispy Duck (which is not crispy btw)

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Well, Britain used to be ā€œGreatā€, if not a bit drab, now its Cheap and Cheerful :grin:

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Re Samsung phones, Google AI says

Samsung phones are primarily made in large, highly automated factories in Vietnam and India, with production also occurring in other locations like South Korea, Brazil and Indonesia, as *Samsung has shifted most manufacturing away from China to lower costs and diversify its supply chain.

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Hi

We can’t make our own at the same price as others can make things.

A huge part of this is our stupid electricity prices, the highest in the world.

An example, we pay our windfarms to turn off when there is an over supply.

Germany amongst others doesn’t do that, thay just give the surplus free of charge to Industry, which basically means the German Nightshifts are making huge profits.

They smelt huge amounts of aluminium at nights, when we are closing aluminium smelters and paying to import it.

The same applies to electric ark furnaces for making steel.

It is called shooting ourselves in the foot.

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And we are buggering about with net zero and penalizing our industries and energy producers for using fossil fuels and producing too much CO2.
A lot of our remote and offshore wind farms are not even connected to the grid yet.
We’re going to need an awful lot of copper wire…

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Nowadays they make most of the worlds ā€˜quality’ products, but they are badged elsewhere then claimed to be made in that country!!

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That’s the problem as you become more successful people expect to share in that success driving up prices. China now has a vast wealthy middle class.

Manufacturers move to other low wage countries.

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It’s not my understanding of a communist system

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Exactly what I was thinking. What are communist elements of the Chinese economy that people benefit from? The one-party dictatorship is communist but not the economy.

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Mao Zedong might give you an argument Dachs…
Although he did some bad stuff, his legacy is the basis of what China is today.

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Thought that was Mouse-tongue :icon_wink:

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