Vitamin D Defficiency and Mobility Issues in Old People

Might Isuggest you add a signature line to your posts? Something along the lines of, I am a conspiracy theorist, everything I post should be treated with scepticism and totally disbelief.

Suggest what you like, it’s a free forum

And since it is, I will exercise my right to ignore the suggestion. :slight_smile:

And this?

he “establishment” and largely fraudulent Big Pharma health industry would have you stay out of the sun. They WANT YOU SICK ! How do they get you to stop doing THE most natural thing that any human can do (get in the sunshine)? By doing what they ALWAYS do, perpetrate a huge Campaign of Fear.

And where are supplements mentioned in that statement Rehab?

I have seen people like you before, but I had to pay admission!
They made me laugh too:lol:

Having a sticky saying the advice may not be best to take isn’t censoring or even pointed just at you.

Agreed, but it would remain judgemental, subjective. What would be the point? Which advice would be the “best to take”?

I think we need to be truthful here. I think the reality is that some here simply don’t like other’s viewpoints and hold their personal view point and as such believe other viewpoints are dangerous.

The flip side is those other people’s views likewise lead to the belief that the other side’s views are dangerous.

The best result for all concerned is open and honest debating ground with as much factual research and source links as possible to enable people to :

  1. Have more information at their fingertips than they have now and

  2. To be able to make more informed decisions

We shouldn’t be signposting people one way or the other. We should be discussing the issues.

This may interest some people.
About 7 years ago a doctor told me that ridges in my nails were caused by a lack of Vit D & I should take a supplement, so I started taking 10mg a day.
After 3 years nothing had changed so i had a blood test which showed I was still low…so I upped my dose to 25mg a day.

Fifteen months ago I broke my wrist, which took 10 months to heal, so when I went for my diabetes blood test, they did one for Vit D too. When the results came through they phoned me to say it was low so I should take supplements & I said that i had been doing for 6 years, so they obviously weren’t doing the job:!:

Their levels were
0 to 23 seriously deficient
24 to 39 Low
40 & above Normal.

My level was 26, so they put me on the prescribed medicine for 3 months & told me to get another test when I had taken them all. I was shocked as last summer was very hot & sunny & I spent time outdoors… so why had i gone so low?

I went for the test and my results were great…I was up to 57 so the prescribed drugs had really helped & they believe my low levels had caused the slow healing of my wrist.
I am now taking 25mg Vit D & a daily calcium supplement so I wont slip down again during the winter.
My doctor said to ask for a Vit D test anytime, if I feel that my levels are dipping again.

People who know me are saying that i seem less tired and more energetic than i have for a few years… so the change in my Vit D levels is obviously noticeable:!::smiley:

If your levels are low, you should take supplements & have further tests, till you get to a “normal” level.
I feel great now, so please don’t listen to anybody who tells you that you don’t need help to keep your Vit D levels normal. If I had insisted in my levels being checked more, my wrist would have been less painful for a much shorter time than 10 months…and I would have needed less painkillers!

Glad you are feeling better twink. Took a long time to get my test because the pain was assumed to be my MS but after I saw my specialist he said it couldn’t hurt to test it and it came back I was down to just 7 ! So I’ve been taking quite a high dose since. Feeling much better for it too.

Wow Julie, if you were as low as 7 you must have been feeling exhausted… thank heaven that your specialist had the right attitude! I felt better after the first month & continued to improve whilst taking the pills, but when i got the result of 57 I was elated because it meant that i was able to get my level above normal.
You will be on a high dose to get your levels much higher & they will probably keep you on the normal dose of 800 IU. Give it a year and ask them to check it again, because you always feel better when you are certain that you have improved & a bit of good news will give you reason to smile.:slight_smile:

As far as I can see, noone here has suggested that people shouldn’t keep their Vit D levels normal unless I missed someone’s post to that effect.

It’s interesting to hear the effect that increased Vit D has had on your general feeling and energy levels etc. It helps confirm how important Vit D is.

I’m more interested to understand how you got a deficiency despite being in the sun. Do you use sun creams?

Could your past cancer treatments perhaps have something to do with it?

There seems to be consistent evidence around that people with cancers are often very low on Vitamin D. Here’s a WebMD article:

[size=3]Low Vitamin D Levels Linked to Advanced Cancers[/size]

“Study Shows Three-Fourths of Cancer Patients Have Low Levels of Vitamin D”

I guess the more pressing issue for cancer sufferers is whether or not their various treatments, chemo, radiotherapy and cocktails of drugs, have in any way compromised the body’s ability to absorb Vit D from sunlight.

Or perhaps it is simply the case that the body naturally uses it’s available Vitamin D resources to combat the cancer and that’s why cancer sufferers are usually low in Vit D?

Either way, yes, clearly cancer sufferers (and other sufferers) need to monitor and boost their Vit D levels as well as possible.

To that end there’s a wide range of natural foods that are great sources of Vit D (easily Googleable). Those would be my personal first ports of calls. Oily fish, mushrooms etc.

Again, sorry you’re in the position/state you are in Floydy. Ignoring is a good option, one that has always been available of course.

For the record I’m very happy with my education, knowledge and research but am always searching to learn more and more. I find that’s the best way to be. Also, happily married, 30 yrs now and have a reasonably sized detached house which is bought and paid for long ago. Your jibes ARE funny though.

Sincerely hope you have a better time of things soon.

Best

It was in January, about two years ago that l went to my doctors as l felt so tired, lifeless and my bones in my legs and ankles were hurting.
It was a young locum that l saw and she suggested l have a blood test and she would request that my Vitamin D level was checked as well. She said the blood test for just Vitamin D levels had to be requested as an extra to a normal blood test. She said, she felt this test should be done routinely for all older people.
The blood test came back and it showed my Vitamin D levels were very low. It was 17. I was immediately, prescribed a very high dose of Vitamin D to bombard my system and raise the level. I now just take one Fultium D 800 IU capsule every day.

I was surprised to find my Vitamin D levels were so low, as l eat lots of dairy products but she said, l probably wasn’t absorbing it. I have to have Vitamin B12 injections every 3 months, as l don’t absorb Vitamin B12 either.

Regarding getting Vitamin D from sunshine, you just can’t win! They tell you not to be in the sun too much as you can get cancer. So you keep out of it and you end up with a Vitamin D deficiency!

And where do we get the sunshine from in the middle of this gloriously battering winter of heavy rain and gloom anyway? I know, let’s jet off to the Caribbean for two afternoons per week. Simple.

Not.

This is excactly what I asked 38 posts ago, Floydy! :lol:

We aint gonna find much here from about October till about next April!

Sorry Mups, yes I did see your post actually :cool: it just seemed to fall on deaf ears by our resident Google expert so I bumped it to remind him we are not all Rastamen living in Jamaica. :lol:

S’alright my friend, I wasn’t moaning at you at all, as I agree with you. :slight_smile:

I think this thread is going round in circles, just like some others do tbh. It’ll never be resolved, that is clear. :roll:

I also notice the original poster lit the fire, then cleared off too. :slight_smile:

BTW, this is part of the link the OP put up at the beginning of this thread, incase anyone missed it.

It explains about lack of winter sunshine:

It doesn’t matter if someone lives in a cold, dark region during the winter months, so long as they’ve received plenty of sunshine during summer. If the body gets sufficient exposure to sunlight during the summer months, it will store the precursor to vitamin D and release it as required at other times. However, an ongoing maintenance dose from a quality supplement would be advisable.

Yes it’s strange why they do that, Mups :confused: But I’d rather have that than some people’s opinions who go overboard with their answers all derived from internet sources instead of their own experience on a given subject.

Not completely true. I agree that vitamin D can be stored within the body for a period of time but not all through winter as if we are all hamsters. If we were fitted with solar panels that might be the case, but as we are human (well most of us anyway) we need that little extra kick in the way of an additional supplement. That applies to other forms of human existence such as our energy levels and general well being too. We need our regular quota of vitamins and minerals, although most can be derived from a good diet.