UK legal CB is 40

I have just had a promotional email from a radio supplier. It seems that legal CB in the UK is now 40. It going legal on 2nd November 1981.

Anyone here do CB in the day? I played with it prior to it being legal & before it really took off in the UK. It was too quiet & short range for me. SSB not being available on any of the sets back them. So I headed back to Echo Charlie.

We also used legal CB’s following it’s 1981 legalisation & with a licence. I was involved with landbased broadcasting & the offence was setting up & operating. So unless they caught you on site, you were safe. So we would set up & then monitor the transmitter site from a distance & keep in touch via CB.

In the early 80s I was a sales engineer and a CB radio was very useful. I sold my rig when I lost that job in the 1983 recession and was on the dole.

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I had a CB radio, a home base, a legal one with a license. It was my Son’s originally, but I took it over when he got tired of it. I made a lot of local friends through it & chatted to the truckers who came passed on the main road, it was fun. I even chatted to some celebs in taxi’s who’s driver let them use it.
I also bought a portable CB & used that a lot as well.
My handle was Equus, but as most of the CBers couldn’t pronounce that it got manged as Eggwhisk. :grinning:
I met on the CB, a CBer called Horseman, he turned out to be my ex riding instructor, in the days when I had gone to the local stables & had refresher lessons, a few years before. we had some laughs about those lessons, he was a very strict instructor. :grinning: I was surprised he’d remembered me.
Yes, my CB days were fun, but then the Italian skip happened & you couldn’t hear anyone properly, it was awful, I tried for another few months but it was impossible to chat properly & that’s when I gave up.

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That’s a big 10 - 4 good buddy !

K40 twig and a Midland CB with a Cobra Power Mic.

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I had one when I was a teenager…it was alright for chatting to school folk and the occasional passing lorry driver, but I wanted abroad people from all over the world! I didn’t realise that you needed a huge antenna in your garden for that!

I always though they were kind of sad with their ‘handles’ and need to yak away to each other

and now … we have FB and forums and mobile phone texts by the mountain load.
Aren’t humans social animals.

You don’t & especially not during 81/2 when the solar cycle was at it’s maximum. Even at Solar Minimum, during a summer lift, I have worked the US on the amateur Radio 10 meter band using just 5 watts & a small mobile antenna.

40 what? Channels?

We have talked about this before but I have a CB radio in my car and one small, cheap hand held unit. They opened up CB UHF and increased the number of channels to 80. There is a class licence but you don’t have to apply for it (how silly is that?)

I don’t use it everyday, only when I am traveling in remote areas, it is handy to know the traffic ahead (road trains etc) or if I am traveling with other people. I have used it to order tucker at a roadhouse - they usually stick a sign up on the road 10 to 15km away giving the channel they monitor.

There is still 27Mhz HF but I don’t think that many people use it except the diehard outback travellers because of its longer range. (not really sure about this, I just see the aerials on chunky 4WDs)

Channel Name: Frequency: Purpose: Frequency Spacing:
Channel 1 476.4250 Repeater Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 2 476.4500 Repeater Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 3 476.4750 Repeater Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 4 476.5000 Repeater Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 5 476.5250 Emergency Repeater Output (not an emergency channel in New Zealand) 12.5 kHz
Channel 6 476.5500 Repeater Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 7 476.5750 Repeater Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 8 476.6000 Repeater Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 9 476.6250 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 10 476.6500 4WD Clubs or Convoys and National Parks. 12.5 kHz
Channel 11 476.6750 Call Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 12 476.7000 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 13 476.7250 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 14 476.7500 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 15 476.7750 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 16 476.8000 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 17 476.8250 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 18 476.8500 Caravanners and Campers Convoy Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 19 476.8750 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 20 476.9000 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 21 476.9250 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 22 476.9500 Telemetry and Telecommand Only (No Voice or Data) 25 kHz
Channel 23 476.9750 Telemetry and Telecommand Only (No Voice or Data) 25 kHz
Channel 24 477.0000 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 25 477.0250 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 26 477.0500 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 27 477.0750 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 28 477.1000 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 29 477.1250 Road Safety Channel - Pacific Hwy/Mwy between Brisbane (QLD) and Sydney (NSW) 12.5 kHz
Channel 30 477.1500 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 31 477.1750 Repeater Input 12.5 kHz
Channel 32 477.2000 Repeater Input 12.5 kHz
Channel 33 477.2250 Repeater Input 12.5 kHz
Channel 34 477.2500 Repeater Input 12.5 kHz
Channel 35 477.2750 Emergency Repeater Input (not an emergency channel in New Zealand) 12.5 kHz
Channel 36 477.3000 Repeater Input 12.5 kHz
Channel 37 477.3250 Repeater Input 12.5 kHz
Channel 38 477.3500 Repeater Input 12.5 kHz
Channel 39 477.3750 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 40 477.4000 Road Safety Channel Australia Wide 12.5 kHz
Channel 41 476.4375 Repeater Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 42 476.4625 Repeater Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 43 476.4875 Repeater Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 44 476.5125 Repeater Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 45 476.5375 Repeater Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 46 476.5625 Repeater Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 47 476.5875 Repeater Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 48 476.6125 Repeater Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 49 476.6375 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 50 476.6625 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 51 476.6875 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 52 476.7125 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 53 476.7375 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 54 476.7625 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 55 476.7875 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 56 476.8125 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 57 476.8375 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 58 476.8625 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 59 476.8875 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 60 476.9125 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 61 476.9375 Reserved due to bandwidth of data channels 22 & 23 -
Channel 62 476.9625 Reserved due to bandwidth of data channels 22 & 23 -
Channel 63 476.9875 Reserved due to bandwidth of data channels 22 & 23 -
Channel 64 477.0125 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 65 477.0375 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 66 477.0625 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 67 477.0875 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 68 477.1125 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 69 477.1375 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 70 477.1625 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 71 477.1875 Repeater Input 12.5 kHz
Channel 72 477.2125 Repeater Input 12.5 kHz
Channel 73 477.2375 Repeater Input 12.5 kHz
Channel 74 477.2625 Repeater Input 12.5 kHz
Channel 75 477.2875 Repeater Input 12.5 kHz
Channel 76 477.3125 Repeater Input 12.5 kHz
Channel 77 477.3375 Repeater Input 12.5 kHz
Channel 78 477.3625 Repeater Input 12.5 kHz
Channel 79 477.3875 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz
Channel 80 477.4125 General Chat Channel 12.5 kHz

My kids and I tend to use channel 70 because there is very little traffic up there

https://www.acma.gov.au/licences/citizen-band-radio-stations-class-licence

That sounds like the Australian system, not the UK system. In the UK we have legal access to uhf licence free frequencies on 446 & within the amateur 433 mhz bend. But legally these are for handheld radio use only, with no external antennas & milliwatts of power only, so realistically & legally distances of yards not kilometres, unless between very high points. Such as their use on high altitude balloons.

Currently within Europe, the UK included. We have 80 legal channels, with SSB being legal & no licence being required & I believe up to 10 watts of power. But the original UK system was for 40 channels, 4 watts, limited size antenna & a licence was required.

Those of you who still use CB radio, what has happened to the Italian skip then, has it stopped?

I do not use CB as I am a radio amateur & I use 28 to 30 mhz, not 27 mhz.

The propagation you mention was a result of the 11 year solar cycle & we have been through a few of those since. Currently, we are just leaving solar cycle minimum. But other forms of perpetration exist on 27- 30 mhz. So some days are totally dead & occasionally propagation is good.

CB is not dead, with users still there & I would imagine that the Italians are still a problem when the propagation is running north-south as the Italians are renowned for using a lot of power. But from what I know. Things are a lot quieter now than they were during the Solar Cycle maximum during the early 80’s as that cycle was a good one. And thus, I do remember it well.

Currently looking at the NASA site we are getting some very good days, with 50 sunspots recorded last month. And although we are at the start of Solar Cycle 25, 24 has not yet finished, or only just finished. I am not sure which. So average sunspot numbers should start to climb from around now as Solar Cycle 25 started in 2019, so will benefit from the end of 24.

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