Uk in Recession

A lot if industry was privatised under Thatcher to avoid the uk tax oayer getting crippled with tax money to bail out the neglect from the 1970s and socialist governments

The Unions are now showing us their real power now.

A relative works at BA and that Company is getting shut of people right, left, and double centre.

Then they appear to want to hire back certain skills on much lower money contracts.

Whatever happened to the law that said you can’t hire someone into a post where another has been made redundant?

BA must be loving the fact that their Union Reps can do nothing!:cry:

BA is now a Spanish company, of course.

Perhaps that’s another reason why so many of our businesses have been encouraged by the EU to ‘re-locate’.
To escape from the well-known left-wing British unions.
The unions are certainly not doing us any favours.

Wasn’t long ago BA pilots (with the Unions) were threatening strike action and grounding the airline over pay. They got the pay rise to keep the business from collapsing - you can hardly blame the airline to get pilots salaries back to average levels. Try being a pilot on Ryanair - you need to pay 30K of training before you get off the ground and even then you won’t get paid anywhere near the going rate. Where are the unions at Ryanair ?

Meanwhile in other news …

In Ireland, I assume.

The problem with unions is that migrant workers don’t join them and IT doesn’t really have a union anyway, and that’s one of our biggest industries.

Unions have been getting smaller for about 30 years thank God.

I was thinking about work and being able to live there easily DM. I thought that free movement was not going to be easy after Brexit. Perhaps I am wrong.

Hi

Free Movement is ending for EU Citizens coming to the UK and for UK Citizens going to the EU.

Tourism will not require a Visa but no rights to work or retire to another Country.

I think it was more than that DM. The unions were very militant at the time and played their part in the downfall of our industries, but a great deal of it had to do that we were no longer as competitive. Chinese steel, Indian steel and other producers were a lot cheaper than we were and their labour costs were so cheap - more like slave labour. Would you have our workers have to work on a par with them in order to compete? Even UK bought the cheaper stuff in preference to our own. Our industries gradually closed down and I am firmly of the opinion that Margaret Thatcher was largely responsible for the engineering of it. She was determined to bring the heavy industries to their knees, rather than listen to them and lose face. India and China can work as “dirty” as they like, with little consideration for their workers or pollution but we were involved with concerns about pollution and the welfare of our people and the mines were considered “dirty” industries
Didn’t stop them buying elsewhere though did it rather than to support our own.

That’s what I thought SF. This cuts down people’s options considerably, particularly the young.

Ireland is an interesting case because under existing legislation free movement between the UK and The Republic is catered for within the Common Travel Area and rights to live in the UK under the 1920 Irish Act which as a result of later Anglo-Republic legislation will so far unfortunately not change as a result of BREXIT.

Personally I hope that both the CTA and the 1920 act will get kicked into the long grass immediately after the end of the Transition period and preferably before.

Placing heavy tariffs on imported steel and other foreign produce would, I believe, encourage growth of our own industries Aerolor. For national use of course. Globalism has done us no favours at all.

People take the pee out of Trump, but he has got the right idea placing tariffs on Chinese steel to protect the American steel industry and jobs…

Globalism benefits only America. I’ve heard all the arguments and have not changed my opinion one iota.

Globalism, pfaf pfaf, anyway, back to the virus, like many such diseases, for certain folks, death would have been an easier option, that is a fact, and, if in our own personal behavior we can protect any such individual, so be it.

Sorry Spitty, youve lost me completely??

Donkeyman!

Sorry to be obtuseAerolor, but why should young peope want to
retire in europe? Arent they supposed to be paying tax to pay
for my pension?

Donkeyman

Erm… may I lend you my volume of “the Rise and Fall of the British Empire”? :-D;-)

La Dolce Vita?

Globalism has always benefited everyone, it’s big corporate multinationals that are the problem. Stifles innovation and enterprise here and abroad. Anti competitive crackdowns have gone out of fashion.