Tell him if Boris wins I’ll eat one of my hats, I’d emigrate
but I’m too old. I hope Mr Sunak wins.
Yup the BBC are reporting the ones who have gone public, but it’s a private ballot so they don’t have to.
And I do know what Guido is and they have also added the numbers of the ones who have told them who they are supporting in private as I also mentioned in my post and the numbers of the ones who haven’t gone public such as whips who aren’t allowed to declare, and have given figures for how many of them are supporting Rishi and how many of them are supporting Boris.
Without substantiation, GF may well doing a BJ … lying …
Currently 193 out of 357 Tory MPs have gone public with their support:
- Rishi Sunak - 119 MPs
- Boris Johnson - 52 MPs
- Penny Mordaunt - 22 MPs
And what would be the point in that.
Ask BJ … he’s the expert.
Its just said on TV that Boris has his 100 votes. I think if it goes to the Tory membership Boris will definitely be back
Rishi has not declared he’s in the running has he, maybe he was waiting to see if Boris got 100 and decides he’d lose if it went to the members, come to that only Penny Mourdant has declared her hand I think.
Wouldnt surprise me if Boris decided not to run now he has the 100 votes…just to prove a point. Actually I quite like Penny but have to admit I dont know much about her
If that happens then there will be insurrection among Tory MPs. If BJ as PM survives that then he may find himself before the Privileges Committee.
The Tory Party will still be tearing itself apart.
Currently 198 out of 357 Tory MPs have gone public with their support:
- Rishi Sunak - 122 MPs
- Boris Johnson - 53 MPs
- Penny Mordaunt - 23 MPs
I agree - IF Johnson does confirm he is standing as a candidate and IF the MPs put him forward into a vote-off by the Tory Party Membership, I think those Tory Party Members who seem to adore “Boris” as much as Nadine Dorries does will probably vote for him, despite the fact that nothing has changed with him since he had to resign a couple of months ago.
Who cares if he is still the subject of an investigation into whether he has lied to the Commons and the great British Public?!
Do, you know what something similar occurred to me he is simply taking the “votes” not intending to run at all so in effect it’s a 2-horse race with 1 horse race never leaving the stable. I think they should all make it clear for whom they vote, this is not normal times.
I can’t see why the lying scum would have come back from his holidays so fast if it didn’t intend to stand. (Who paid for that holiday for him, I wonder? Isn’t Parliament in session, as an MP is he allowed to just go off on holiday and miss important votes? )
That any Tory MP, Tory party member, or Tory supporter could be even considering supporting this man back as PM proves what I’ve always said, they don’t have a single principle or shred of integrity between them
By “they”, do you mean all Tories, or just the ones who are considering bringing BJ back?
Currently 203 out of 357 Tory MPs have gone public with their support:
- Rishi Sunak - 127 MPs
- Boris Johnson - 53 MPs
- Penny Mordaunt - 23 MPs
*ere is some insight into what has happened in the last few days: the Rishi campaign has decided in their wisdom to freeze Guido out – no briefing, no contact, effectively pretending we don’t exist as a fact of political life. Petulantly putting us in the penalty box for giving Rishi a hard time in the last leadership campaign. We started reporting and publicly recording the support of MPs for Boris on Thursday, and by yesterday evening the Rishi campaign was instructing their supporting MPs to contact us to confirm their support for him. As our records showed support for Rishi catching up with and then pulling ahead of Boris, his campaign reminded supporters to confirm their pledges to us. All can now see the relative strength of candidates’ support.
In this morning’s Times, Matthew Parris today claims that
- “Momentum is being manufactured through creating an impression that Johnson is already on his way to victory. Mysterious reports on social media suggest he’s surging ahead among those MPs who are declaring — but the identities of some of these are undisclosed. They will (we’re assured) reveal themselves “later”. The sense of movement this creates is giving those many Conservative MPs who still keep their own counsel the idea that this man is a winner, and (say quieter MPs to themselves), “we’d better declare for him early, as we know he rewards supporters and freezes out the rest”.
*opy which Parris obviously filed yesterday afternoon before we showed Rishi surging ahead that evening. Unhinged analysis, shown to be so, as events unfolded before the ink was dry on his claims.
*Ps who have not pledged can be seen by all sides. They are either genuinely undecided – waiting to see which way the wind blows – or biding their time for Machiavellian reasons, or simply ransoming their vote for the highest bid or best favour. What MPs can’t do is double pledge any more. If they tell a campaign they are backing their candidate the campaign expects them to go public. If they don’t go public, they are suspect.
As the pioneers of real-time transparency in this form, we decided to record the preferences of MPs who are whips or 1922 Committee officials or hold offices in the party which require them to be publicly neutral. Which is why we record higher numbers than our rivals. We verify those pledges directly even when campaigns assure us. Which is why when last night we hit 100 for Rishi, the Rishi campaign immediately confirmed to the media they had passed the threshold, despite other media organisations being well behind with their figures. We note with satisfaction that now some of those same media organisations are switching to quoting using our public plus private figures methodology.
esterday the site was visited three quarters of a million times, such was the demand for data. This kind of transparency is now a fact of political life, the game has changed. Changed for the better…
*##### Team Rishi’s strategy of ignoring the website read by so much of the membership doesn’t bode well for their success if the contest goes to the membership.
Guido now puts Rishi on 133. Boris 74
In all honesty, given the ridiculous shenanigans and in house fighting and backstabbing that seems prevalent, it is palpably obvious that the events of recent days have taught the Tories absolutely nothing.
Since Truss is still the pm, she could actually do the one thing that is absolutely obviously necessary and decent…call a general election.
Her party needs a few years timeout to sort themselves out and she’d be doing everyone a favour to stop this nonsense.