Thoughts On Electric Cars?

All you ever needed to know about NRMA chargers (I suspect they are similar to all chargers)

They even have a handy map showing just NRMA chargers - my sat nav shows all types. including Telsa chargers

We are being threatened with power cuts, OK that is annoying when the telly goes off, but, no power for charging the car, that is catastrophic.

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But your car is also a very big battery that could run your house for hours. Unless you do a phenomenal mileage an electric car only needs charging weekly, in Sydney for example the average daily car usage is 38km, I think most electric cars have a range of about 400km on a charge.

I know my bikes range, just need to scale the knowledge up.

I thought l heard recently, with the rise of the price of electricity that it will now cost as much as petrol.

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Which is why we now heat and light our house with jars of petrol dotted around. These are also great for cooking marshmallows on.

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That theory is all well and good Bruce, provided you can charge your leccy car at someone else’s house.

Eh?

How long do you think these power cuts will last? Power cuts are usually shared around, a couple of hours or less at a time but anyway the advantage of a car is that it has wheels and can be driven to a power source to be charged up, even better they have sat navs built in with directions to the closest one.

People can plan for these sort of events and keep their car charged up.

Electric cars were being discussed on TV this morning. There has been quite a slump in people buying them mainly due to charging costs which is now 17p per hour.

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If someone could use economy tariffs to charge their car battery when it’s cheap, and then use this power for ones home needs during more expensive periods, then that would make sense. Having said that, one wouldn’t actually require a car to have the battery in😉
EV’s are still comparatively dear to buy and seem to have other potential issues too, such as not being able to push them off the road should they break down, and requiring specialist towing equipment. Also, the UK govt has decided to start charging road tax in the not too distant future, thus removing another incentive.

Batteries have a cycle life, the capacity is best kept for powering the vehicle, the cost of replacement batteries is astronomical.

Very debatable. I’d half that or less.

they catch fire and better to get a new car than replace the battery brcauce of the cost

That might be the case for a new battery, but as it deteriorates the range will reduce considerably. Apparently, the Tesla batteries are made up of over 6000 3.7 volt cells in series and parallel to make up the voltage and power requirements. If just one of these cells fails, it will start to discharge the good cells…

It took someone i know 8 hours to travel from Birmingham to somerset due to having to charge up and waiting for a charging point to come available.
Not for me

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Let’s face it, electric cars are just rubbish. They are a long way from being good enough to replace the internal combustion engine.

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The standard formats for metal-encased cylindrical lithium cells are 18650 (18 mm in diameter × 65 mm tall), 21700 (21 × 70 mm), or 26650 (26 × 65 mm).

The cells I recovered from my faulty Makita 18v battery were the 18650 type I am still using them because of their convenient voltage nominally 3.7v but fully charged are 4.2v and should never go below 2.5v (I think that is right). I charge them using a USB charger via one of several charger/protection devices I bought off Ebay for less than $1 each.

That is one of the problems with lithium cells, you can’t trickle charge them like lead acid or Nickel Metal Hydride cells but the big advantage is that you can take all of the power you put in out again - eg Lead Acid batteries can be ruined if you discharge them to below half their capacity ie a 110A/hr Lead Acid battery can only supply 55A/hr before you risk damaging it. Whereas if you put 110A/hr into a Lithium battery you can use 110A/hrs

So how does all that technical spec apply to an electric car Bruce?
You can not dismantle an EV car battery…When it’s failed, it’s failed…At least 6 grand up the swanny…
:coffin:

Firstly you introduced the subject with the video in your message #25 (didn’t you watch the video?)

As for the battery being unrepairable I suggest you have a look on Youtube there are plenty of people repairing them. I am sure farriers said the same about the internal combustion engine when they first came out

Here’s just one…

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Waiting for today’s fusion discovery to yield some results. In the meantime I’m sticking to petrol. The hybrid cars are at particular risk of catalytic convertor theft due to a higher concentration of precious metals.

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