It’s not a binary - it’s possible to be appalled at what the US and Israel are doing - regime change from the skies NEVER works out well, especially in the Middle East, they should have learned this by now…and also worried for yourself.
Like I doubt those in Iran are giving thoughts and prayers over our food/oil/energy prices? I think they have bigger things to worry about…
In the case of the current war, Trump is giving your children and grandchildren a future. Assuming you have some.
I’m not sure why you think the world has a future under Trump’s policies. This is a terrible time of uncertainty and chaos for the world.
it’s a bizarre throwaway comment. I don’t even eat takeaway food
You feeling ok? The ‘race’ responsible for a genocide couldn’t be further from the ‘greatest’ we have ever seen 
You kidding, I remember years of food rationing from 1939-1956? Then the Suez war when petrol was rationed. Not forgetting being stationed in the Chaos Islands area, being bitten to death. Strange that, Starmer reckons they are of no military importance, so why were they then?
The rational for the US war on Iran is unclear and inconsistent. The goal of the war has not been set out. Presumably there is no plan beyond air strikes.
The first rational was to stop the Iranian nuclear weapons programme. The one that the US obliterated last year. The one that there is zero evidence that Iran is anywhere near to have usable nuclear weapons/
Then it was to achieve regime change. Certainly the Iranian regime has been brutal, murderous and done inhumane things. Those sort of actions have not been enough to prompt a war in other countries. Nor does that explain a war now - why not last year, or before? And why will killing one leader guarantee the next regime will be better? Regime change is hazy guess work by the Americans - playing with Iranian lives. Look at Libya.
Then it was about ballistic missiles. Of which there are no evidence of any long range missiles. Ah, but possibly missiles capable of reaching Tel Aviv. And Israel had already decided to attack Iran. It just needed a US president reckless enough to join in.
None of this is making the region any safer. Not now and not in the future. That claim is completely without basis or merit. A war with no clear objective and no plan and no idea of what next can only deliver more problems, not fewer.
Economically this could be far worse than suez or opec, if Trump doesn’t give up this nonsense the whole world will really turn against the US. Meanwhile in the US public speakers for the US government are playing down the economic impact. So annoying that one person can affect everyone’s quality of life in the world with a reckless action like this.
Jews and Jewish tradition have existed for approximately 3,500 to 4,000 years, with roots tracing back to the ancient Near East and the patriarch Abraham. Emerging from the Israelites and Hebrews in the Levant, historical records place the development of a distinct Jewish identity and their presence in the Land of Israel over 3,000 years ago. During which times they have endured the likes of the the Otterman Empire and many others who have moved and murdered them. And still they survive all over the world.
That a sweeping statement to make … and purely a matter of opinion. He’s not some kind of caped crusader you know.
At the moment he and Netanyahu are the biggest warmongers in the world. I see instability. I see economic instability and loss of life.
I’m just still shocked to see an American President dancing to Netanyahu’s tune.
It reminds me of the whole ‘Weapons of Mass Destruction’ lies in the second Gulf war.
Starmer was right – and I hate to praise him on anything as a socialist - to question that and just not want to get involved, as did Spain.
We both lost a lot of people in those wars, and had terrorism on our shores as a result or knock-on effects…and then Trump said we didn’t help, and all those wars, the allies didn’t help win. Insulting our veterans and war dead. He wants to dismantle NATO, not help with Ukraine - who incidentally are helping allies destroy the Iranian drones atm - and invade Greenland.
So he can fight it alone then. It turns out if you insult all your allies, then it’s FAFO time and they don’t want to help back? Funny that. The ‘special relationship’ was paying off a war profiteering debt anyway, took until 2003. Google Marshall Plan if you don’t believe me. That’s partly why the UK doesn’t have the Empire, the terms of that debt.
I wholeheartedly agree with you on this point Azz.
Count up the atrocities in Gaza, the West Bank … the illegal settlers and now this war, I think Israel are far from guiltless, never mind one of the greatest races this world has produced.
I think we can all see the challenge of squaring the concept of America first with the reality of attack Iran on behalf of Israel. And that’s before we try to sit the Trump promise of no more new wars with the reality of now attacking Iran.
I’m amazed anyone who will now see the US in a new war, see food and fuel prices go up, will see the threat of terrorism increase, will see financial instability everywhere - and still think that voting for Trump was a good idea.
That was a bit facetious if you don’t mind me saying so.
Was Churchill a Cape Crusader? And you know about making omelettes. Get stuck into bombing Dresden if the other subject interests you, worth it. Hospital regarding my heart tomorrow, this is working wonders.
Also highly contentious, those are estimates from a US news source.
Not saying Iran would not murder 36,000 of it’s own citizens, but the figures vary from the 3,000 reported by Iran to 36,000 from TIME so who knows?
Just putting life into perspective.
The trouble with saying that all Jewish people are somehow aligned with what netanyahu is doing is that it’s simply not true. Many are very much against him, but they don’t have a say. There are many protests going on in Israel and there is vocal opposition by some Jewish groups outside Israel. His actions have severely damaged Israel’s reputation in the world.
Then look into Coventry and London after it. Both sides committed war crimes against civilian populations.
And then look at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Cos you skipped THOSE and that killed far more…massive war crime cos Japan was on the edge of surrender but the US HAD to prove a point…and test it’s new toy.
I doubt it, but it sure has dented the standing of GB. Mind we now have an unbeatable army. Yobs from the larger cities armed with catapults and ball-bearings purchased on eBay. Nothing will fly over our skies.
