Who is that information gathered for? Ok. You might not know that in france but it’s provided to the Command in Chief. Do you know who the Commander in Chief is?
The only one that knows the degree of threat is the one that creates the threat. Not surprised the arm chair warrior didn’t know that.
And that’s what he did.
But the information they were dragging their feet on negotiating. Problem solved.
Win Loose OR Settle. One things for sure.
Israel is going 2B Hamstrung.
In finding a Gas/Oil producer, prepared to supply.!!
I think the last arrogant sentence rather means the first sentence is a foregone conclusion don’t you?
Firstly, I can see why forums are dead or dying. If you post a fun thread, it is wrong; if you post this stuff, most run for the hills.
So this is a post, well, more a question from a simple poster who knows nothing and is confused.
The situation in Iran at this time. Iran is known to be a vile and evil regime, intent on spreading their power and terror throughout the world and showing no remorse in the process. Clearly, they intend to build a nuclear device and increase long-range missiles, perhaps with help from Russia, China and Fat Boy. Not next week, but time soon passes. Also, any agreed negotiations will be broken, hidden and ignored, which is their nature. Next, folk want the current USA attempt to stop this from ever happening, put to an end, as they consider that it is causing financial hardship and death.
So my question is very basic: if the USA withdraw now, how will they stop all the problems Iran will cause in the future, when Iran is so powerful that they become untouchable and a massive cause of death and disruption and calling all the shots, now having realised that they could hold the key to world domination? Should an attempt to stamp it out now not be made, and if not, what is the alternative , and do not reply, discussion.
Two observations …
1] It’s a good discussion, folk are just getting a little narky at times.
2] You haven’t mentioned Israel at all. And whilst figuring out the mentality of this war and the objective and longterm aim … I don’t see how you can omit them.
Israel is not the problem.Answer the question.
Israel is the problem … Netanyahu had led Trump by the nose. I’m still amazed he managed to embroil an American President to this degree of lunacy. I didn’t have Trump down as a fool. An egotist but not an idiot.
Who gains from all this?
Israel.
you can easily replace the word “Iran” with another country and it won’t lose any of the meaning. May even be more accurate.
follow the money trail…
Three posts that cannot answer the simple question
Perhaps the big guns will manage an answer
Are you very sure about that? The influence of the pro-Israeli lobby is well documented in many countries. And Netanyahu’s influence over Trump is clear. So please re-visit that claim
Do not divert please, in order not to answer the question.
Come on experts
Thank you for posing a fair question.
First, your opening sentence. The concept of the US withdrawing only arises because the US started this war. You cannot withdraw from a war that you are not part of - definitely not one you started. The problems this war has created is worse than the problems before. The US has created so many risks and potential issues - withdraw or not.
You posit that Iran might become (you said “will” but hey, let’s be kind) more powerful. Please detail and justify that claim. With substance rather than emotion.
You do note that Iran “now having realised that they could hold the key to world domination”. How has this realisation come about? Might that be because the failing US assault and the Iranian very effective retaliation (please note - I do not support the actions of Iran) has demonstrated that Iran and their allies are seemingly more effective than the US. That is something that Trump has enabled. Surely you can see that?
You ask for an alternative. The alternative was there before Trump stopped it - the previous agreement with Iran. The alternative was being recreated by negotiation before Trump decided to p!ss on it just three weeks ago.
So let me ask you - what world wide problems and risks has Trump’s actions created? If you do not answer, then I am happy to lay out the sh!t fest we are facing.
According to reports Putin has admitted to aiding Iran. He’s trying to do a deal with Mr T about this. So if Russia is backing Iran, why is the US not targeting Russia?
And why is Trump lifting sanctions on Iranian oil? Have the lunatics really taken over?
First that was an opinion from the hard liners in Iran this week, they have seen the huge benefit of their power to stop oil and cause world crisis. which in the future could make them a major world power. Nothing to do with my emotions, I am just asking what seems a sensible question and being fobbed off, as anticipated.
No chief, I gave you fulsome and detailed reply.
Interesting that here you state “huge benefit of their power to stop oil and cause world crisis. in the future could make them a major world power”. Do you not understand that this realisation has come about because of Trump’s actions? All the actions from Iran were predicted, not just predictable but predicted. How do you not see that Trump and Israel have made this all worse?
PS - please note my politeness. I certainly note your defensive rudeness.
Why just pick on Iran? Why not pick on other aggressively dangerous countries?
Why think the US actions thus far have helped?
Why expect a US withdrawal unless their stocks of weapons are depleted?
Why think previous agreements were meaningless?
Why think Trump asking for future agreements are necessarily not meaningless?
Why think US/Israel actions these last weeks are helpful?
Why do you support actions that destablise the world’s economy?
Rather sounds like you are becoming rather discortious as you are unable to answer the question to which I and others it would appear have zero answer. I am not interested in diversion, Iran has realised that the straits are the nemesis to future power.
So what is the answer to my straightforward question without trying to divert around the houses?
Please answer the serious question, rather than an irrelevant lot of what-ifs.
