The Supernatural

Ive had a couple of strange things happen to me but its mainly my wife who is more sensitive to these things,
We used to have a cat come around a few years ago mainly to try and steal our cats food, ( our cat is sadly no longer with us ) anyway our cat used to be shut in our kitchen at night otherwise she’d wake us up several times wanting to go out ect, one morning my wife asked if our cat came in and jumped on the bed, I said she didn’t as both the kitchen and bedroom doors were still closed, she swore she’d felt a cat jump on our bed and walk over her, I said she must have dreamt it.
A few nights later I was woken by a cat jumping on our bed and walking over me it wasn’t our cat as she was sound asleep in our kitchen,
I can’t explain why we would both dream the same dream on separate occasions, did we feel a cat walk over us ? o r did we dream it.?
I have a couple more strange events if anyone wants to hear them

Yes ok,but who am I to disbelieve what They say?..I have no proof that They are lying or imagining it…They only tell what They saw/felt/experienced,and to Me and Others, that’s interesting…I’m sure these Folks can’t explain WHY these things have happened to Them…As I said My mind is open to all things.

It’s interesting isn’t it Alan. A chap I know had similar experiences so did his wife, only it was with a dog they had lost. They both used to hear her getting up and shaking and her collar tag clinking, for months after she died.

Perhaps it might clarify things if we split ‘experiences’ up into two groups:

When an individual suffers from a loss of a person or a pet, they may feel that they are still aware of a presence. I suspect we have all had this experience.

The other side of the coin is when a third party claims to be in touch with the deceased person, saying such banal things as, ‘You mustn’t blame yourself.’ or ‘I am very happy here.’

Personally, I believe those people who have felt the presence of their loved ones - I cannot explain it, but I believe them.
I consider the people who stand on stage and ask, ‘Does somebody here know a lady whose name begins with a J or a G?’ to be absolute charlatans.

I love tales of the supernatural, ghost stories, spooky films etc etc. I think they speak to a desire within us to grasp at any indications of immortality. I don’t actually believe a word of any of it though, but it’s great entertainment!

Science is just starting to unravel dreams and it is now thought that they are used to sort and store our memories.
So dreams often contain bits of things people have told us/things which happened to us / random fleeting thoughts
all mixed up together and churned out in our dreams most of which we never remember.
So you could easily have dreamt the same thing as your wife :slight_smile:

I have no doubt that people experience things whether they want to or not. It may be a comfort to some or in some cases a feeling of terror for others. We all have senses, so it seems natural for this to be a part of our genetic makeup

I am always intrigued by children who, much to their parents concern, have a friend a so called imaginary friend or can quite openly tell you that Gran (who died) kissed them good night.

Mike :slight_smile: I will illustrate how easy it is to have ‘an experince’ and how the mind plays games.
Shortly after my husband died I went to house sit for my brother in his old converted farmhouse on the moors. It is a bit like Wuthering Heights .

My mind was not ‘in a good place’ as they say at that time and this was not helped by my watching a horror film before going to bed which spooked me a bit .

I could not get to sleep and became aware of a faint strange noise in the bedroom , it was like someone breathing and continuous.
I could easily have let my mind run away with me and imagined all sorts of things.

Eventually tiredness took over and I fell asleep.

My Brother returned home that day and feeing a little foolish in the daylight I told him my story.
He roared with laughter and said he should have warned me.
The bedroom in which I slept contains an old chimney and on cold nights sheep in the field next to the house huddle against the wall containing the chimney for warmth and their breathing accentuated by the hollow chimney can be heard in the bedroom :lol:

So another recent experience happened late last year, I was working at a
nursing home repairing a tumble dryer in the basement and, chatting with some of the staff we somehow got onto the subject of ghosts, they told me about an old chap that had been seen sitting in a store room just sat not doing anything then would just dissappear, at some point I found myself alone when I had to go to the toilet , as I was in there three sharp knocks on the door startled me and I called out “won’t be a minute”… no reply,there was no one there when I came out . Now it could have been one of the staff members on the way for a break but the normal reaction when someone calls out if you knock on a door is to say something( like to apologise or say ok ect) but nothing was said at all, of course it could have been someone having a laugh but im sure they would have let me in on the joke…weird

Not at all, I am sure there are some people who having knocked on a loo door and found it occupied would say nothing at all to save embarrassment to themselves or the occupant.

Also you were in a nursing home, it is not unusual for some members to speak very little and some elderly ladies might even be startled by a male voice and would creep away with a minimum of fuss.

I have in fact done something similar myself when we had decorators in at work :slight_smile:

The thing is people like to have a story to tell and will often maybe subconsciously turn a blind eye to the obvious.

My elder son died from heart failure here at home.In the evening,after the undertakers had taken him away ,my other son and I sat downstairs together.I felt some ‘prescense’ coming from my son’s bedroom and didnt want to go past it,but I didnt want to say anything to my other son, then he said to me " Theres some prescense coming from A’s room like hes there ,I dont like going near it," This feeling remained for a few days ,then after I cleared the room out it went

It’s after having an experience which then has an explanation, that you get that burst of relieved laughter :smiley:

Some years ago, I spent the night in a small bedroom of a cottage in a village called Cuckney. I felt uneasy as soon as I entered the room.

The single window was very low - I could see the lane between my feet. Everything was a shade of brown - the old furniture, the carpet, the wallpaper. The room somehow embraced me, tightening, cocooning me. I lay in the dark, and I knew that somebody had died in the very bed in which I lay. It wasn’t a threatening or spooky feeling, but it was unmistakeable.

The next morning, I asked the old lady who owned the house about the room. She told me both her father and her husband had passed away on that bed.

Thanks a bunch, I thought.

:shock:Han. No different than hospital beds though :wink:

No residents would be allowed in the laundry or the basement all the doors are locked and coded

Why wouldn’t there be, their room holds things they have touched and even their ‘scent’ it is the place you would most associate with them and it is filled with their precence.

When my husband died I would hug his clothes because they smelt of him and it made him feel close for a while.
Gradually you learn to let them go and that may include their possessions to and the nearness of them fades …
After 30 years I still feel close to my husband when I touch the few possesions I have kept.

If the cottage was old someone would almost certainly have died there at some time, people usually died at home until recent years …
Likewise beds, if they are more than a few years old there is a chance someone may have died in them.
Nothing strange there .

If I go to stay in the house in which I grew up I know at leat five people have died in the beds there.

The world is a strange and wondrous place. Even with the help of increasingly sophisticated science, there are still phenomena which we are, as yet, unable to understand or explain. In the middle ages, thunder, lightning, earthquakes, floods were inexplicable in terms of the level of knowledge at the time, so people tended to give them supernatural significance - “It’s a miracle” or “God is punishing us for our lack of faith” etc etc. Imagine if a time traveller had arrived in 13th Century England with a fully charged i-phone, an automatic firearm or a battery driven DVD player - what would people have made of those. The time traveller would no doubt have been burned as a witch! (or worshipped as a messenger from God!)

…someone must have gone down at some time to use the laundry and tumble dryer or why have them there and you to mend them.

Residents can easily get access through coded doors and doors left unlocked momentarily while laundry is carried out (you were in the loo so wouldn’t have seen them) there are of course the staff who may have been embarrassed as I suggested in my previous post :slight_smile:

No, Meg, I agree, nothing strange that somebody had died on that bed.
What was strange was the ‘presence’ that remained. Somehow, the whole bed and room had a ‘memory’ of the person who had died there.

At the moment, there are no scientific instruments that can detect any such ‘presence’ or ‘memory’. Not that I know of, anyway. Perhaps one day it will be detectable. Anybody living in the early Victorian era would have been completely unaware of TV signals flying through the air (had it been possible). They would never have known about cosmic radiation or X-rays.

What will become detectable in the future? Other dimensions? Other life forms?

nb… As I was writing the above, Mick was also writing in the same vein.