No way! There would be an additional charge.
The NHS is the biggest spreader of covid 19 and sent elderly infected patients back to care homes. We all know the carnage that came from that while we were banging pots and pans on doorsteps.
The NHS has waiting lists of over 5 million people and 740000 missed cancer appointments. If it wasnāt for the private sector even more people would be getting killed off by our health service.
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there were mistakes made at the beginning of the pandemic people just didnāt know
That doesnāt make private medicine superior to the NHS
Private companies benefit by using specialists who are trained and have their professional standards maintained through the NHS. They can, at times, use NHS facilities and NHS staff to care for their sickest patients, when their own facilities are not up to standard. The private sector fails to comply with the highest professional standards of evidence-based practice, because treatment is often offered on demand rather than according to best evidence. Prices in the private sector are kept artificially low because, in the UK at least, private providers can avoid paying for the fallout of their mistakes āNHS colleagues will follow up any infections and bleeds post-operatively, and if anything goes wrong you can phone an NHS ambulance (in many small private hospitals, they phone 999 if you suffer a heart attack) These factors all mean that private companies can afford to sell an image of efficiency and modernity that in truth they have little claim on, because their success depends on the existence of the NHS.
Private healthcare is far superior to the NHS. There arenāt waiting lists that span years and private hospitals donāt have the hygiene problems and broken systems like the NHS.
The NHS has around 30,000 libel cases against it too - hardly surprising considering how many people it kills each year through negligence. Harold Shipman - remember him ? He had the best track record in killing patients, thereās been a lot of nurses guilty of killing elderly people, children and stealing.
You just love the NHS because its a symbol of socialism.
Well said. Despite their vast army of administrators, the NHS does seem to be poorly run and in my opinion that is largely due to so much of their financial resources being wasted on their pen-pushers rather than on the clinical staff and facilities.
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Look at how many other countries have better health services than ours which cost less to run.
Our NHS costs us every single penny raised in income tax !
Just think about thatā¦
I very much doubt it Muddy because I am a very solitary person and only venture out into the country by myself. I only came into contact with our friends and neighbours three days before exhibiting the symptoms and they both were up to date with their vaccinations and did not contract covid. The likely infection was probably passed to me by Mrs Fox who had recently had to visit town on business, although she would have worn her mask except while having breakfast.
Why do we need to know who is and who isnāt vaccinated ?
Do we ask for identification for people with diseases such as Hepatitis, HIV or seasonal flu ?
Both vaccinated and unvaccinated people can transmit and catch the virus. You can also catch it from contaminated surfaces ā¦
We need to stop demonising unvaccinated people. They pose no more risk than anyone else, its is only their choices that are different from others. Unvaccinated people can also have natural immunity, but this area goes ignored and people only talk about vaccines, which arenāt really vaccines at all, more akin to treatments for COVID which reduce symptoms from infections and vary greatly from person to person. This is a reason why vaccinated people are in hospital with COVID - they can still catch it and the symptoms vary depending on their response to the āvaccineā - some are brilliant, others virtually none at all.
Iām not singling out vaccinated people - when people are vaccinated they can (in many cases) view themselves with a level of immunity so feel they can discard some of the measures they were taking before vaccination. Examples are using hand sanitiser and washing hands frequently - the levels of sales of hand sanitiser has reduced since vaccines were introduced which is why Iām giving this example. Also with the vaccines, the country opened up and people gathered in large groups - unbeknown to many of them they could still catch covid, hence the headlines of āVaccinated person catches COVID for the 2nd timeā etc.
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I didnāt say we needed to know.
I just asked you the question Bread, that was all.
I also read that the vaccinated are less likely to spread covid.
I have no idea who is telling the truth with this virus, I got all 3 jabs and am glad I didā¦nothing more to say,so will exit the thread.
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Bread, it is obvious that you have got the Science mixed up on this.
Very easy to do if you get your Info from those with an Agenda.
You are a very successful person in life.
I am surprised you have fallen for the misinformation on the Internet surrounding Covid.
I will listen and learn from you on many things.
Covid is not one of these.
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Yes.
Less Likely to catch it and Less Likely to pass it on is my understanding.
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Its not misinformation Swimmy.
People have a 99.75% survival rate and the average age of someone dying with covid is 82.
Thereās no such thing as following the science either. We should be interpreting data which constantly changes. Every prediction from Sage has been completely wrong
Every one of them.
Just a malicious rumour spread about by the media in order to get everyone vaccinated Ruthio, otherwise Boris is going to be stuck with umpteen million quids worth of vaccines. Havenāt I read that the sell by date on the latest batch is sometime in Januaryā¦Everything must go!
So you refute the info in the article in the New Scientist that Muddy provided on post 162?
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Youāve got to admit, it is suspicious and perfect timing Dexā¦
Same as the timing of the release of the video proof of all the office parties when it has been available since last Christmas.
Perhaps Iām just a doubting Thomasā¦
So Foxy ā¦ donāt you believe there are any benefits to be had in taking the vaccine?
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Absolutely I do Morty, itās certainly removed the pressure on the NHS, and I also believe many people will have benefited by knowing that they have done their absolute best to avoid complications, hospital admission and even death by having the vaccine.
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Hear what you say Foxy, but I guess that up to date reports and analyses are likely to be reported as up to date as possible.
There is so much conflicting information available from various sources Dex, including official ones, and not all of it can either be believed or discounted. I feel we are subject to the mercy of the media. Itās not so much a case of which information is correct as, who has an agenda and benefits from reporting one way or another. Itās not always about the information displayed so much as the information that is left out.
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Totally agree Foxy. Trouble is that once you, I or anyone decides to take a stance, itās all too easy to find things that not only support our views, but also ignore or denounce other evidence which contradicts our own thoughts.
All we can do is follow our hearts (and heads as best as possible, subject to pride) and hope that weāve made the right choice.
Que sera sera, eh?
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