Thatcher did Break Britain

My childhood memory of Wilson is the endless caricatures in newspaper cartoons, with his pipe being the main focus of comedy.

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1970’s Retro designs are available today. I remember we had something like this but the stylised circle flowers were bigger!

Sorry to be the pedant correcting all the time, but this is thread about Thatcher. The changes that her government made to CGT was to decouple the rate of CGT paid from the rate of income tax paid. That linking was why some, but only the high band tax payers, paid 60% tax on capital gains. So it is only correct in some specific circumstances to say that Thatcher significantly lowered CGT. In other cases CGT went up.

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Unfortunately design trends are heading back to that awful 70s wallpaper and other tasteless decor, they are even cooing about putting wallpaper on ceilings. Absolutely shocking. I absolutely hate any kind of wallpaper because it is such hard work to put up and then it ends up peeling or staining. But then I hate carpet too. The biggest 70s con was the deep shagpile carpet. Looked great for the first five minutes.

Hard to imagine living with those strident designs today. I admit to wallpaper on the ceiling (just one roll) in a pantry/freezer room. A kind of vine design - like being in a kids’ den under the weeping willow!

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I blame Thatcher.

another design disaster was the 90s border craze, nothing dates a property more than still having one of these on the wall now

Well I really liked some of that 70’s stuff
it was cool! :sunglasses:

I appreciate that I’m veering way off topic so I might just start a thread dedicated to the subject! :+1:

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Hold on a minute
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Here in Yorkshire we’re sitting on hundreds of years of coal, and the North sea still has large amounts of natural gas, although we can buy the North sea gas for twice the price from Norway.
A 1gW gas fired power station will provide the same power as 300 wind turbines, and take up a fraction of the land needed for solar panels and the associated lithium battery storage.
facility.

Guess who is taking over that nuclear infrastructure? Chinese companies.

That’s a really good idea, can’t see any issues with that
 cough

A foreign power in control of our energy
how could that possibly go wrong?

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And that coal and oil if burned will raise the sea levels to the point that the east side of Yorkshire or the UK will get swamped
say goodbye to Norfolk, Sufffolk, and lower lands of the UK
and some of the south.

Fossil fuels are a bad idea, end of. Climate change is inevitable now, but let’s not make it worse? Ice caps are melting, where do you think that water is going to go?

Those record 42 degree summers are not a blip, as is rarely getting snow/cie south of the border - and the weather is already getting wetter and warmer in the UK, and the equator so hot and desertified soon people won’t be able to live there.

Already the fact for some of the middle east, 40’s-50’ C temps during heatwaves means you go outside, you die.

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Seldom goes over 25 degrees where I stay.

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So it never gets hot anywhere else in the UK then? LOL.

It reached 42 degree near me one summer a few years ago. I don’t remember 30+C summers as a kid even during the famed summer of 1976. Whereas they are usually a regular thing now, in the South to hit low-mid 30’s at least.

BTW that 42.5-43 degrees was the highest recorded temp in the UK since records began.

But hey, climate change isn’t real, right? /s

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I thought there was a plan by Rolls Royce to make some mini reactors that would be situated all over

You’ve been fed bogus information Fingertrouble
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Sea levels are not actually rising. We are living at a time when more land is exposed than ever before. There is proof of ancient sea life in some of the highest places on the planet, and it was far hotter in the UK during Roman times and before. We are still coming out of an Ice age and it will continue to get warmer despite humans attempt to prevent it. Our weather is mainly reliant on the sun and our orbit around it.
Yorkshire and the East coast is not in any danger of being swallowed up by the sea except where erosion is taking place, mainly due to drainage, soft earth and water running off the land. The sediment is washed away and deposited at other locations. It’s what nature does

Locally fossil fuels cause temporary pollution and even if CO2 was the problem (which it isn’t) the UK contributes less than 0.1% of world CO2 levels which currently stand at 0.038 %

CO2 is also required by every green thing on the planet, and is heavier than air, so it does not remain in the atmosphere.

Ice caps in the Antarctic have actually been increasing.
You need to spread your information net further than David Attenborough and the BBC
The information is out there, but you need to do some research to find it

Scientists are leaving in scores who are sick of being made to only report on the agenda of scare tactics and world doom.

Never mind rising sea leavels. Truth is that animal habitats and marine life are being affected by human activity and dumping of rubbish everywhere on this beautiful planet. We need the biodiversity of the planet to sustain human life. Everyone argues about global warming, but we should be focusing on biodiversity.

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Some of us well remember those fantastic Thatcher years which some younger members on here knew very little about, what life was like back then or even only just out of nappies.
Houses were affordable if you worked hard enough and saved. Being born in 1945 I was old enough during theThatcher years. She stirred up the “yes men/woman sheep” in parliamant . We need her back now to give a hard up the bum kick to our government today

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I was still a child when she came in, but I could see the improvements over the 80s. The same happened with Blair. Both are marmite to people. But both made the country more productive and gave Britain a presence on the world stage. Whatever your politics you have to agree that the calibre of our leadership is inferior compared to those years. In particular the last 10 years.

Where?
Surely if you were a child in a mining town (perhaps Barnsley), or a steel works town (maybe Corby), or a car plant town (Linwood) in the 1980’s then your memory of Thatcher would have been very, very different. These were not places of improvements in the 80’s. Things did not get better. The status of Britain in the world stage did not give your mum and dad jobs or re-open shops. Again I need to point out that personal experience is not the very best measure of what was going on at any particular time.
Here’s my experience of growing up. I lived in a town just south of Aberdeen. In the 70’s I witnessed lots of people coming to the town for new, well paid jobs. I saw lots very nice new houses being built. We got a huge new secondary school. Local small businesses prospered because of the influx of families who had spare money to spend. Accordingly I think that the Heath, Wilson, Callaghan era of PM’s was one of great prosperity and opportunities for individual potential & growth. Then in the late 1980’s, under Thatcher of course, there was a significant crash in the prosperity round us. Whole housing estates lay empty - not just unsold but people walking away from houses they’d bought just a few years previous. I could really see the decline in the 80’s. According to the “personal experience” rule - I blame Thatcher.

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