Teachers among us what are your opinions on this ?
Iām not a teacher but isnāt this just a means to justify poor results in the future?
I think this is a good idea (not a teacher either) Most uncivilsed behaviour happens for a reason, rather than just ābeing badā
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How does one define bad behaviour?
Not conforming to the generally accepted rules of the place youāre in.
Did anyone see the documentary about this woman and her school?
āKatharine Birbalsingh is happy to be labelled Britainās Strictest Headmistress.
She runs the Michaela Community School in Wembley.
Itās a culturally diverse school in one of Londonās most deprived boroughs, and yet the children are perfectly behaved.ā
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I rather like one readerās comment in the Mail:
āVery Labourā¦let the wild kids run riot and hold back the brainy ones who want to work. Labourās policies always seem to be aimed at making everyone as thick as the thickest.ā
I was a teacher, but not at a school which excluded pupils, being a primary school. However, I can foresee this leading to a great disadvantage to those pupils who do want to work and learn.
I also agree with Ruth. A lack of discipline, at school and at home, encourages bad behaviour and a lack of interest in learning.
Interestingly, I see that āacademies excluded more children than other schoolsā. From what I understand, those schools which renamed themselves āacademiesā some time ago, did so in an attempt to make themselves appear far more āacademicā than they actually were, largely due to the type of pupils who attended!
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I am not in the least surprised. Southwark has that racist and anti semite Neil Cole as MP; he was SO bad Labour suspended the whip 11/2/22. To me that just about sums up the general attitude of those who should know better in and around Southwarkš¤¬
Edited to add ā¦ I was not a teacher of children. At one stage I was an in-house lecturer for government residential internal departmental courses
KB is a very interesting person
Yes, we watched it and read the accompanying article in the Daily Mail about how the local Labour Party and other activists were trying to get the school closed down because it didnāt ātoe the lineā when it is compared to the State schools in the immediate area. The fact that it far out-stripped them all on OFSTED ratings and exam results didnāt seem to matter to them overmuch. I seem to remember the activists calling her school North Korea or something similar because they thought the pupils and teachers were scared to death of her.
Edited to add: Didnāt we have a thread about this TV programme?
Yes, this sort of behaviour by the Labour Party is exactly why I could never vote for them.
They were, many years ago, the ideal voice for most working people. My dad always voted for them (or so he said), but I think that fewer and fewer working people vote for them now, apart from the dyed in the wool socialists, for the simple reason that they have changed.
I believe that they no longer really represent the working classes, many of whom can now see through them and their policies. They have even lost all their traditional support in Scotland. For that reason, I feel, they are making every effort to attract the votes of the Pakistanis in our country, even those who commit rape of minors, and it seems to be working because it is in those parts of the country that their support is still strong.
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Reading things like this make me so glad I was at school when I was!
At Primary School - which is an important beginning for most children - the teachers were caring and inspirational. There were rules - with consequences if broken. We all knew and accepted that - and didnāt whinge about it! Teachers were strict but fair - and were respected. Above all they were approachable. It is from those wonderful people that I developed a love of learning and a thirst for knowledge - neither of which have ever left me.
Grammar School was a bit of a culture shock - the teachers were every bit as strict, fair and inspirational - but not so approachable - school rules forbade us to speak to a teacher unless they spoke to us first. The lessons were necessarily more formal and their content harder - but we all understood they were preparing us for greater things out in the big bad world.
I enjoyed my time at school and am grateful to those teachers on so many levels. I was no saint though - frequently in trouble for asking questions - once lead the Lower Fourth in a strike against having too much homework!
We never knew about, much less had to deal with, such things as druggies, paedophiles etc., Life and learning were a big adventure.
I would hate to be at school today - and, if I had children to consider, they would be home educated!
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I agree. Things have changed so much since I was a child at school.
Of course, as a child I canāt say that I particularly liked the discipline, but of course now I can appreciate how very important it is.
The trend today, I think, is that the whole ethos is for teachers to hopefully persuade their pupils to enjoy their lessons. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but when the usual troublemaker comes along knowing that their teacher really has no power to correct them or (I hesitate to say it) to punish them for misbehaviour there is nothing much the teacher can do.
In fact, in many schools misbehaviour has come to be accepted as there is nothing much to be done about it. I suspect that, nationally, what has been done to overcome this is to make exams easier and so raise apparent standards. This is why āgood schoolsā providing for supportive parentsā children are almost always coming out with better results.
Schools in other areas with uninterested parents and lack of home discipline fare far worse.
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Both of mine did too. AFAIK, my brother still does. I grew up, politically, when I left school and started work.
I think that if there is no discipline in school all studentās education will suffer and , if some pupils canāt accept the discipline, allowing them to remain will encourage all children to behave badly.
When will people learn that a school with no discipline produces children without knowledgeā¦ and then who will provide for them when they canāt get a job? 
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Us mugs that have to pay income tax, thatās who.
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You are right, but if they allow disruptive children to remain in the school , their influence may create even more uneducated kids!
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Hi
The problem with equality for all is that it invariably ends up with bringing everyone down to the same level rather than everyone up to the same level.
To paraphrase Terry Pratchett.
Jason was a child with Special Needs.
In the view of the staffroom these should start with an exorcism.
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Why not? Itās described in the Quran and that seems to be in vogue these days.
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