Six million UK homes ‘could face winter power cuts and rationing’ if Russia cuts supplies

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-05-30/ministers-warned-of-millions-of-winter-power-cuts-and-rationed-supply

This is an article which came up in my new feed. I can’t post it here due to a paywall, but basically 6 million households (thats homes, not individual people could face blackouts this winter "due to the Russia/Ukraine war)

In the Times (which again cannot be accessed fully without paying) it says:

“The modelling is understood to assume that Britain will receive no import of gas from “interconnectors” in the Netherlands and Belgium as both countries face their own emergencies. The shortages would force Britain to implement its own gas emergency plans, which would lead to the closure of gas-fired power stations. Heavy industrial users of gas would be told to stop using it.
The closure of plants would lead to a shortage of electricity, forcing the government, in effect, to ration. It would be turned of on weekdays at peak times between 7am & 10am in the mornings, and 4pm & 9pm in the evenings. This could begin in December and last for 3 months.”

  • well I can see civil unrest happening sooner than expected, frankly. And I doubt its got much to do with “the war” and more to do with Brexit.

Time to invest in some more thermals .

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December, eh? Happy ruddy Christmas! :mx_claus:

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I doubt it will actually come to pass…it sounds like more fearmongering. You can’t honestly expect people to cope with all this nonsense, PLUS facing winter with no electricity every day for weeks on end. What about the kids?

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Everything is being geared to all electric cars , houses etc
What happens next ?

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Blame the green climate nutters for this and the anti-frackers.

Personally I don’t think this is just more media fear mongering. We all know how inaccurate “modelling” is.

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As someone who shares home with a young Ukrainian widow and her 3yo twins, I consider that a price worth paying if it helps speed Putin’s demise. Life is comprised of compromises & sacrifices and I reckon this a price worth paying.

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Can you explain? If you don’t think it’s fear mongering, you think it could actually happen then? What about the poor families who are already struggling, and now having to deal with this thought. :frowning_face:

Struggle they might, but more to the point, what about all those lives still being lost to Putin’s warmongering?

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Yep! Blame Putin, Covid or Brexit, for this and successive governments complete balls up of the countries infrastructure. But while you are sat shivering in the cold and dark this winter, be happy in the knowledge that we will have knocked twenty minutes off the time it takes to travel from London to Birmingham…

There could have been a lot less lives lost if America, the UK, and others had not provided Ukraine with the weapons to prolong the war and give Ukraine false hope.

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The cost of living crisis is brought about by the lockdowns. It’s very little to do with Ukraine - we only have about 3% in total of our gas imports from Russia anyway. We also have our own natural gas and North Sea oil, but the green lobby have prevented us from using it because of guess what … fear mongering about the end of the world from Co2 etc. It’s OK for the politicians and the mega rich campaigners to go around the world on super yachts, private jets and motorcades though, to them, its everyone else’s problem. We should start fracking, now and stop buying windmills - if not because they don’t work half the time but also because they have not reduced the price of electricity, at all. We should invest in modular nuclear power which is by far the most reliable and efficient option, but the problem with that is it provides a solution to all the green lobby’s problems (who are funded massively by governments and NGO’s by the way, a total gravy train if ever there was one) and also because of the fear mongering (Chernobyl) pumped out by the media, which incidentally was caused by socialist governments, building unsafe power stations in the first place, unregulated and as cheap as possible.

Anyhow, we have been fear mongered over Brexit by the media, fear mongered over COVID by the media and fear mongered by climate change and net zero by the media… this is just an extension of that.

Unless The Times and ITV give me the data and the algorithms behind their modelling and predictions I refuse to believe them. This is the answer they want created by manipulating data to back it up, just like Neil Ferguson did during bird flu, swine flu, foot and mouth and covid.

As for struggling families, Comrade Johnson and Rishi Corbyn should have increased the personal tax allowance to 20,000 and then provided an uplift in Universal Credit, saving a lot of the £400 giveaway that Boris and Sunak (like a lot of other rich people) get who don’t actually need it. The “green levy” on energy bills should be either redirected and replaced with a new “sustainable levey” or removed completely.

Notice how the “green lobby” aren’t up in arms over Germany building coal fired power stations or China building another 100 of them a year ? The reason is they cannot criticise socialist principles (the EU and the CCP) because thats the church that all this belongs to, driven by the fear mongering by the media, facilitated by big tech.

Thankfully, Elon Musk just threw a spanner in the works.

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Thanks for that, I do appreciate your explanation.

I do agree with this.

I can’t agree with this though. Wind turbines generate enough electricity to fuel the entire UK (which should in theory reduce our bills) I do not agree with fracking in any which way.

In the Times article, there was a bit about Hinkley Point B, which is a nuclear power station in Somerset, to be given an 18 month extension. This is almost 50 years old and was due to be decommissioned in the summer.

Yes I agree with this (although can I be really cheeky and say we were lied to about Brexit because of the Government agenda. They would have pushed ahead with it eventually due to manipulating information… It was only supposed to be an idea, not legally binding. My opinion only…I don’t want a Brexit debate :smiley: )

I agree.

I’m going to check this out…I haven’t heard/read anything about these coal fired power stations so I will go and find out.

What did he do?

On the bit you disagree with about wind turbines, just bear in mind they cannot store electricity, they can only generate it when the wind blows and even then, not very efficiently. When the wind stops blowing the power goes off, unlike nuclear which is constant.

Elon Musk bought Twitter which means the left wing bias, shadow banning and auto blocking for having alternative views other than Twitters is being removed in favour of free speech,

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Something fishy going on ??
The ‘Economist’ reports that the wholesale price of natural gas in the UK
has collapsed ??
It explains this won’t affect the predicted upcoming price rises, but l
was unable to find out why as l am not prepared to open an account ?
Why has no other newspaper remarked on this ??
Donkeyman ! :-1::frowning::-1:

Pssst… Wanna buy some coal?

Yes they don’t store it themselves, but there is storage for it normally on the grounds of the wind farms. I don’t know how cost effective this is though, and I don’t know about the ecological impact it has.

I knew Elon Musk had bought Twitter, but wasn’t aware of his plans. (I don’t use Twitter)

All I could find for recent news was this @Donkeyman

The Ukraine mess that resulted from American messing (again) is being used as a scapegoat for so very much. What is the never mentioned risk to the UK electricity supply is the distribution network which in many parts of especially England overloaded and clapped out, not a good combination.

That’s a good point, Todger. Some of this infrastructure is absolutely ancient, and can’t cope with all the new-build areas of demand.