Secrets of the Great Pyramid of Giza

Bakerman , yes tuts father had the body of female , breasts waist and rounded hips due to insest aparantly , they believed the blood from mother son father daughter brother sister was pure , of course we know different . Please check out the still born baby girls for me it’s quite recent news apparantly.

I will check it out for you, BUT if the babies were buried with Tut, Howard Carter would have found them.

yes, Howard carter did find to fetuses in Tut’s tomb. Their DNA was studied at Univ of Manchester in Sept 2008. That’s all I could find right now.

That’s what makes Egyptology so interesting, new theories are evolving all the time especially with all the new technology. Plus it must make Zahi Hawass (the antiquities minister) one of the richest men in Egypt. :lol:

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I almost tripped and fell in the Nile, I was too busy videoing walking up the plank. :blush:

You would be a goner if you had the Nile water is seriously toxic!

This article says the same:

During their reign, it is believed that Tutankhamun and Ankhesenamun conceived two children (both girls) who were born prematurely and died. Evidence comes from the mummified remains of two babies found in Tutankhamun’s tomb and DNA analysis confirmed that they were daughters of Tutankhamun. One of the children is known to have had a condition called Spengel’s deformity in conjunction with spina bifida and scoliosis.

Lots more info here:

The Twin Tragedy of Tutankhamun: Death of a Dynasty

including:

Carter himself unwrapped the smaller fetus that measured less than 30 centimeters (11.8 inches) in height and estimated it to have been around five months into maturity; but was confounded by its state of preservation and the absence of an abdominal incision, which meant that the body was not mummified. Also, the archaeologist discovered a mask of gilded cartonnage over the head of the child and recorded that it was “several sizes too large”. In fact, a funerary mask seems to have been destined for the other fetus too, but was presumably discarded into a pit that contained embalming debris when it was found to be too small to fit over the head of the linen wrappings.

Manchester University has a half-decent Egyptology museum. Fortunately, we live not far from it and, when I was teaching, I took my class there on more than one occasion.

A fascinating place and, kids being kids, they were the first to spot a mummified penis on one of the mummies and, of course, word quickly went round. You could have guaranteed it!

Yes, ladies, it’s still there if you feel like going. :lol:

I know. At one point our anchor got stuck so one of the crew dived in to help free it. I don’t know if he died or not but I don’t suppose anyone was bothered if he did. :shock:

FYI, Hawass is now in disrepute. He got caught stealing and selling ancient artifacts.

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A fascinating thread, so much knowledge, thank you all.

Thanks to you all for info , fascinating stuff

Oh dear!:shock: I didn’t know that.

Have you got a credible source for that allegation … :?:

No available source right now but I’m sure if you scour the www. you can find it.

Hawass was a serious jerk anyway. He wanted to cut off all rank and file tourists to the painted tombs and allow only “1st class people in”.

If you think THAT is bad, you should have seen what he did to an American female student, who was part of an Egyptology Study Program.

Hawass, and the group was in the upper reaches of Khufu’s Pyramid. The girl got an anxiety attack because of the tightness of the space. She peed her pants and Hawass went absolutely ballistic and sent her home to America in disgrace. (I saw the whole thing on a YouTube video)

Seriously, I never liked that jerk.

I have scoured the internet and I cannot find any reference to Hawass “stealing and selling ancient artifacts”.

He was certainly a “victim” of politics:

JUNE 2013

Hawass was vilified when protests against President Mubarak erupted in Tahrir Square in January 2011. Protesters called him “the Mubarak of Antiquities” and accused him of corruption. Underlings in the antiquities department and jobless and frustrated archaeology graduates besieged his office, demanding his ouster. “And take your hat,” they shouted. In April 2011 he was sentenced to a year in jail, stemming from an alleged case of rigged contract bidding at the Egyptian Museum in Cairo. (The verdict was later overturned.) In July 2011, after serving two successive post-Mubarak governments, Hawass finally was obliged to give up his job.

12 Nov 2014 14.04 GMT Last modified on Wed 14 Feb 2018 20.39 GMT

The world’s most famous contemporary Egyptologist, Zahi Hawass, has been summoned for questioning over claims that he helped three German hobbyists steal rock samples from inside Egypt’s largest pyramid. Hawass denies the charges, saying “there is nothing against me”.

In April 2013, the three Germans – two amateur archaeologists and a film-making accomplice – crept inside the inner sanctum of the Great Pyramid at Giza, the last the seven wonders of the ancient world to remain relatively intact.

The trio, conspiracy theorists Dominique Görlitz, Stefan Erdmann and Peter Hoefer, wanted to show that the pyramid was not the final resting place of the pharaoh Khufu, as has long been accepted, but was in fact a relic of an even older empire.

In an attempt to prove this, they scraped off part of the pyramid’s cartouche – the insignia that denotes for whom the pyramid was built – and took it back to Germany for testing. Following an international outcry, the samples were later returned, and the men put on trial in absentia – along with five Egyptian officials accused of helping them to illegally access the pyramid.

All eight were convicted on Tuesday, after a trial in which the five officials claimed that it was in fact Hawass, a controversial former antiquities minister, who had facilitated the theft of the samples, during his involvement in a documentary about the cartouche in 2010.

Following the convictions on Tuesday, the judge summoned Hawass for questioning about his involvement. Hawass denies playing a part, saying that he left government in mid-2011, two years before the crime took place. He admits that as antiquities minister he gave the go-ahead to the 2010 documentary, but says that during filming, “no one touched the cartouches and no one even put their hands near it”.

Hawass added: “I was not in charge in 2013. This [theft] happened in April 2013 … There is nothing against me. I just have to go to the district attorney to prove that what happened in 2010 was according to the law.”

So, AFAIK, Hawass has not been convicted of “stealing and selling” anything.

Omah, Did you actually expect Hawass to confess ?

Seriously, Omah, darn few criminals confess. They hire the best lawyers possible and often win in court. But, just as some are wrongly convicted, some are able to escape justice when they are actually guilty.

My point was merely that Hawass is no longer in charge of anything and is living in disrepute.

Your point was:

Whereas I did not dispute the first part, it seems that you cannot substantiate the second part and therefore you are guilty of libel.

(laughing) Ha ha So, sue me. :smiley:

Why should I? It’s not me you’ve libelled … :102: