I agree…it doesn’t simply inform anymore, it creates drama.
it really does depend on the animal as to the rules. Look at ants or bees for example - very organised hierarchical societies. They work together to survive just like we do. The difference with humans is that have spent a great deal of energy having wars and torture and oppress large or small groups of our own kind. So I wouldn’t say for example that launching two atomic bombs on Japan was without incident. We rub along because we need each other to survive. But we kill more of each other and more animals than any other species on this planet.
But would you be able to get it out of your back pack ?
Attacks are violent and unexpected .
He was seen on CCTV camera that is why he has also been charged with kidnap .She was probably in his car.
I am with you on this Suedomin .
It may have not been the wisest move to walk out alone at night but it doesn’t mean she deserved to be murdered
Our two cats think they are civilised too and that torturing a dead mouse or bird is part of their civilisation! Our civilisation includes dog fights, cock fights with blades, bullfighting and used to include gladiatorial spectacles in Roman times. all badged as civilisation. Public executions were the norm in medieval times. We make the rules and decide on how civilised we are. Again the cats think we are kidding ourselves.
I don’t think anyone said she deserved to be murdered, just that she was taking a risk.
Animals are absolutely NOT civilised. The very nature of animal behaviour is the antithesis of civilisation, it is the innate behaviour of the things.
As for blood sports INCLUDING so-called sport fishing are NOT civilised. They are elements of brutality that polute true civilisation.
Yet apart form cats few animals kill for sport only.
They kill for food .
We don’t .
Corrct Annie But some people see any criticism of risktaking such as this , walking alone across Clapham Common during darkness and in this case perhaps standing out during a lockdown too, as victim blame which of course it isn’t .
Some women seem to think they ought to be allowed to do exactly as they please without feeling fear . Sadly this has led to them being attacked in various ways and very often to their deaths .
Nope it was victim blaming .
Perhaps you don’t realise you are doing it?
Not what was meant, some may have gone out of their way to avoid crossing a park and kept to the road.
Ours is a human perspective and yours is one opinion on the matter. Animals will have a totally different opinion about our behaviour and assumed civility. Luring them into a false sense of safety then slaughtering them. It’s little wonder wild things run from us. Blood sports are part of our civilisation (s). Pretending that one set of humans you don’t like is not part of the human race is delusional.
Not at all. It is objectively discussing the situation. Walking around at night alone during lockdown is a risk for anyone. Male, female etc. Would you for example see the situation in the same way if this had been a child walking around Clapham common at 9pm during lockdown? If not why not?
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A different view.
We cannot protect everyone, the world is not organised that way.
There is always danger to all of us.
I am an ugly, nasty looking individual who is dangerous, I am not a person who looks like a victim.
I have still been attacked.
I am not a very attractive blonde female walking round with ear pods in.
In an ideal World, she should have been able to walk home listening to the music of her choice with no problems at all.
We do not live in an Ideal World.
The World is a dangerous place, especially for attractive females.
A sad fact, but true.
Having said all that, there are places I get worried about walking on my own at night.
My daughter believes that all are equal and telling her not to walk alone at night, even in very dangerous areas and with Dad saying that no matter where she is ,he will pay for a Taxi, is like a red flag to a bull.
She will just do it.
I admire her stupidity.
I take it out of the backpack and put it in my pocket if I am out at night.
So pointing out the dangers of rather foolish risktaking behaviour means I’m victim blaming?
Would you say that were I a police officer?
I can of course go further and question what she was doing out visiting a friend during lockdown ?
Which perhaps is what this off duty policeman pulled over and asked her, inviting her into his car to take her home ?
Once again I’m not victim blaming but if this was the case she would have been taking yet another risk, in my opinion.
My aunt carried a knife while The Yorkshire Ripper was at large . Not that she’d have been able to use it because he attacked from behind .
I wondered why she was visiting a friend, going into their house. Seems it’s a common occurrence in that area. The trouble is it could have drawn the attention of this off duty cop. They have a reason to be able to watch people’s day to day activities. Stalker’s paradise.
This poor young girl is lying dead in a mortuary, a beloved daughter/ sister…may you rest in peace, and may your killer be brought to justice…my prayers and thoughts are very much with the family…may you be given all the support you need, at such a traumatic time.